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Re: Ladies on The List (Only peripheral LBC)

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Subject: Re: Ladies on The List (Only peripheral LBC)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 14:26:08 -0400charset="iso-8859-1"
Cc: "spridgets list" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Ed in N.C......Don't try to bulls**t us!  You're just hoping that the women
will see your post and think of you as their "hero and protector".  (Nice
try, though!)

Bob


>  One short post; then I won't mention it again for the rest of the year...
>     ;-)
>  I still talk to Nory now and again and after I mentioned a couple ladies
>she knew who have dropped off the list she asked if there were -any- ladies
>left on the list at all...
>
>  Have you noticed how quiet most of the female listers have been for the
>last couple of months??
>
>  Obviously the vast majority of folks on this list (and likely most car
>lists) are "guys".  Since we can't actually 'see' who is in the room we
>seem to forget ourselves and behave as if there are -only- men here and we
>get a little overly boisterous and careless with our language and
attitudes.
>  Most, or even all, of us are probably guilty to one extent or another.
>  If we have driven some of these ladies away, or even unintentionally
>made them uncomfortable to the point that they've gone back to just
lurking,
>then I think we have done them -and ourselves- a grave disservice.
>  The two ladies I've talked to who have left this list said this was not
>-their- reason for leaving; but, how 'bout all the other nice ladies we
>don't hear from any more?  If they were all still here and participating
>we would have a sizable contingent of very nice women actively working on
>-Spridgets- and -enjoying- them -with- us.  Easily four times the number
who
>are currently posting to the list even semi-regularly!
>
>  How many of us post barely disguised cuss-words?  There are milder words
>to express the same basic sentiment that don't need to be spelled #$$*!.
>Using them makes you sound more mature and in control of yourself.  And
both
>safer and more pleasant to be around.
>  How many have posted a comment about "the wife"?  You don't want to claim
>her as "MY wife"???  You chose to marry her!
>  How many times have we seen (heard?) someone jump down another lister's
>throat over something they said derogatory?  Sometimes they even found out
>later that they had misread the comment in the first place.  How do you
>feel about walking into an unfamiliar situation on your own knowing that
>you're in a situation where you're not expected to really understand what's
>going on (even by the friendlier denizens) and then see some of the
regulars
>yelling at other regulars?  (Actually, I can remember an instance when one
>of the ladies even asked me about the probable intent of a response she got
>from one of the other ladies on the list! :-) )
>
>  I -promise- I don't mean this in a "politically correct" kind of way (I
>have little respect for the P.C. Police), and I -REALLY- do NOT want this
>to turn into another long thread (sorry about that, Jay!).  There's no need
>for any replies to be posted to the list; ;-) but, may I please suggest
that
>we all consider the ladies' more in future?  If you/we really feel the need
>to get loud with someone, maybe it could be done off-list and then, if
>appropriate, just whatever final agreement is reached be calmly posted.
>
>  I would really like to see more ladies/women/girls/females -happily- and
>-comfortably- participating on the Spridgets list!
>  Thank you for your patience!
>   Ed in NC
>  (Well, maybe not so "short" as I had thought... ;-)


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