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Re: fast bug-i in Fresno

To: Toby Atwater <Toby@intri-plex.com>
Subject: Re: fast bug-i in Fresno
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 23:43:03 -0700
Cc: "'drewzer@pacbell.net'" <drewzer@pacbell.net>, "Spridgets@Autox. Team. Net (E-mail)" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Wow Toby... I'm impressed. You obviously more up on this then I am... I guess I
had it backwards, I'll double check.
At any rate... after we both finish our cars we'll just have to meet and see
who follows whom?
See you there!
-Drew

Toby Atwater wrote:

> 3sg s' were only sold in FWD format in the sates, so some more tweaking is
> in order. Distribuor has to be moved etc... the s engine series came in
> Celicas, and 2nd gen mr2s. yes and even the 3sgte (turbo). Long block, they
> can be had from a number of different engine importers for around $1.5k-2k.
> These are guaranteed 6 months, and suposedly have less than 50k miles on
> them. As far as everything i have read, the 4ag is the older of the 2. It
> was in the corolla GTS' & early mr2s for along time in different formats
> RWF, FWD etc...3sg is what finally replaced the 4ag in the mr2 and corolla
> gts'. The celica went to the 6 cly (supra) later I belive.
>
> |>
> |>Toby,
> |>Do you have the 3SG engine or I should say... do you know
> |>where to get one?
> |>Yes they are good engines but they were just the prelude to
> |>the 4AG engine,
> |>which is far more superior. The 3SG was sold ONLY in Japan
> |>and there are no
> |>parts sources here in the US... ask me how do I know this...
> |>I just rebuilt and
> |>18RG which was also sold strictly sold in Japan and but was
> |>imported here (the
> |>US) for off-road use only heavily through out the eighties
> |>and early nineties.
> |>I had to pay through the nose for parts at places like TRD
> |>and Toy$ports. For
> |>those who don't know the 18RG is 2.0L, dual cams, alloy head
> |>(made by Yamaha),
> |>has an 88 mm bore with a 80?mm stroke, factory red line is
> |>8.5K and has dual
> |>carbs (mine have been upgraded to Mikuni 44 mm or in terms of
> |>SUs about 1.75",
> |>I'd guess offhand). My engine is at about 160 to 170 HP and
> |>is going into a '62
> |>Sprite.  After I save a few more pennies I'll punch it up to
> |>92.0 mm (2.2L) and
> |>be at an easy 200 HP keeping the same 10.1 ratio pistons and
> |>272/288 cams, put I
> |>may have to find a heavier car to put it in.
> |>Stay with the 4AG because its already here in the US, parts
> |>are plentiful, no
> |>cutting the tunnel (don't ask me about that) and in fact John
> |>Carey (also on the
> |>list) has a buddy Rod that has a Midget with a 4AG in it...
> |>and as I understand
> |>it halls ass, but mine will be faster... when I get it on the road.
> |>Good luck Toby.
> |>-Drew in San Jose.
> |>
> |>BTW... If I were to do it all over again I'd do a rotory.
> |>
> |>
> |>
> |>Toby Atwater wrote:
> |>
> |>>
> |>> Toyota 4age engine (think 84-86 RWD corolla or early mr2)
> |>1600cc, DOHC with
> |>> a toyota T-50 tranny fit right in with very little cutting.
> |>> On my Midget, I am planning to try a toyota 3sg engine.
> |>2.0L DOHC hooked up
> |>> to the same tranny. 200hp natutally aspirated machine. No
> |>fuel injection, I
> |>> am gonna try to adapt some SUs to at least try to remain
> |>vintage esque.
> |>>
> |>> Have fun...
> |>>
> |>> Toby
> |>>
> |>> 69 Sprite (all stock and keeping that way)
> |>> 69 MG Midget... (hey its already hacked)
> |>


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