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Re: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts

To: "'John Innis'" <jdinnis@gmail.com>, "'Herbert Miller'"
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
From: "Steve" <stevegar@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:41:10 -0400
Traction control was banned in F1 in 2008.

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From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Herbert Miller
Cc: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts

You are correct about ABS, but on the other, I think you are mistaken.
 F1 cars DO have traction control.
http://www.f1technical.net/articles/7
http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/understanding_the_sport/5278.html

IRL is a DRIVER's race.  It is about driver skill on a level playing
field, where you can't 'buy' a championship.  To me that's racing.  If
technical innovation and big money are the goal, lets get rid of the
drivers all together and have a series where the cars are all driven
by computer.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Herbert Miller <hgmiller3@qwest.net> wrote:
> F1 cars do not have ABS or traction control. Talk about gimmicks, "push to
> pass button". IRL is a spec class. Every car is a Dallara chassis with a
> Honda motor and Firestone tires. All the same = no technical innovation.
> Herb Miller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:04 PM
> To: Rick Fisk
> Cc: Spridgets List
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
>
> That's why I like IRL.  They have telemetry, but nothing that can be
> considered a "driver aid".  No ABS, No Traction Control, there are
> suspension adjustments, but they are all manual.
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wrote:
>> The guys today more or less point and shoot - the cars practically drive
>> themselves.  Most F1 races are a parade  The finishing order is often
very
>> close to the starting order.  My vote is to remove all of the computers
> and
>> the telemetry and make the drivers actually drive the car.
>>
>> Fangio won five world championships back when the driver actually drove.
> And
>> Fangio never drove a Grand Prix car until he was 37 years old.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels"
> <ladaniels@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:17 PM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
>>
>>
>>>
>>> While I applaud the ingenuity that goes into these telemetry systems, I
>>> can't
>>> help but think that Fangio, and even a driver's driver as recent as
> Senna,
>>> would be turning over in their respective graves at the thought of this.
>>
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