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Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Lowering kit for MKIII Midget

To: "pcasey@hawaii.rr.com" <pcasey@hawaii.rr.com>, Spridgets List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Lowering kit for MKIII Midget
From: Steve Christiansen via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:44:41 -0800
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That spring length is for the car that Jim asked about, a Mk III Sprite.  1=
500 spring is longer=0A=0A =0ASteve Christiansen=0AOl Phartz Partz=0A949-71=
6-2569 Office=0A714-686-1236 Cell=0Awww.olphartz.com=0Aschris51@att.net=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "pcasey@hawaii.rr.com=
" <pcasey@hawaii.rr.com>=0ATo: schris51@att.net =0ASent: Tuesday, February =
24, 2015 6:14 PM=0ASubject: Re: [midgetsprite] Lowering kit for MKIII Midge=
t=0A =0A=0AHey Chris-  been following this (and several other) threads...  =
9.85" free length is for which car?  MKI, II, III, or 1500?  I think the Ru=
bber Baby Buggy Bumper ('75-'80) coil was longer, yes?  Were the other/earl=
ier coils all the same?  I see Moss has some high end Suplex (German) coils=
 for sale in three weights:=0A=0Astd 9.5", no listed rate,=0Afast road 8.5"=
 340 lbs/", and =0Arace 400 lbs/" - no listed length.=0A=0ARon at Winner's =
Circle has some 500 lbs/" race springs, and lists three different stock spr=
ings for 948, 1098/1275, 1500.=0A=0AI bought some progressively wound coils=
 for the F&R of my Europa, from Carrera(? - I think... have to check, as th=
ere are a few spring vendors out there), and they were beautiful- haven't b=
een able to test them yet, but the concept appeals to me enough that I woul=
d like to see if I can find them for my Bugeye and B.=0A=0ACheers-=0A=0APat=
rick=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A---- "Steve Christiansen schris51@att.net [midgets=
prite]" <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com> wrote: =0A> Jim, =0A> =0A> The front=
 spring free height is 9.85"  Hope that helps.=0A> =0A> =0A>  =0A> Steve Ch=
ristiansen=0A> Ol Phartz Partz=0A> 949-716-2569 Office=0A> 714-686-1236 Cel=
l=0A> www.olphartz.com=0A> schris51@att.net=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> _______=
_________________________=0A>  From: "'bmwwxman .' bmwwxman@gmail.com [midg=
etsprite]" <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>=0A> To: Yahoo Spridget list <midg=
etsprite@yahoogroups.com> =0A> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:00 AM=0A>=
 Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Lowering kit for MKIII Midget=0A>  =0A> =0A> =
=0A>  =0A> Thanks for you input Gerard.  That's why I posed the question to=
 the list.  Those are things that crossed my mind but without any experienc=
e I couldn't make an educated decision. List members have now provided that=
 experience.=0A> =0A> Cheers!!=0A> Jim=0A> =0A> =0A> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 a=
t 3:15 AM, Gerard pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com [midgetsprite] <midgetsprite=
@yahoogroups.com> wrote:=0A> =0A>  =0A> >  =0A> >The blocks are way too tal=
l for a Spridget, and the top and bottom are not parallel, which they shoul=
d be. Proportionally, they look at least 2.5 times thicker than what would =
give you what you need.  Also, those locating pins to positively locate the=
 blocks are incorrect. The U-bolts are probably too wide also. I think you=
=E2=80=99d have a total fail on your hands. =0A> >=0A> >=0A> >Using incorre=
ct parts on the rear suspension can cause catastrophic failures with the su=
spension. If you must use a lowering kit, get one made to fit the car corre=
ctly at least.=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >Gerard=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> =
>>On Feb 24, 2015, at 12:51 AM, midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com wrote:=0A> >>=
=0A> >>____________________________________________________________________=
____=0A> >>2a. Lowering kit for MKIII Midget=0A> >>   Posted by: "bmwwxman =
." bmwwxman@gmail.com bmwwxman=0A> >>   Date: Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:12 pm ((PS=
T))=0A> >>=0A> >>Anyone familiar with these?  Will they work on my MKIII Mi=
dget?=0A> >>=0A> >>http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BEN2V8Q/ref=3Ddra_a_rv_ff_fx=
_it_P2000_1000?tag=3Ddradisplay-20&ascsubtag=3D3ecc01e844c7b94047d102497fb2=
67a4_S&dra_hfr=3Dx&dra_ohs=3D24-48=0A> >>=0A> >>-- =0A> >>Cheers!!=0A> >>Ji=
m Johnson=0A> >>High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.=
org>=0A> >>Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>=
=0A> >>Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.or=
g>=0A> >>=0A> >>*"Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such=
 a way that they=0A> >>look forward to the trip."*=0A> >>=0A> >>*Winston Ch=
urchill*=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> =0A> Cheers!=
!=0A> Jim Johnson=0A> High Plains Youth Hockey=0A> Dodge City Trail of Fame=
 =0A> Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology=0A> =0A> =0A> "Tact i=
s the ability to tell someone to go to  hell in such a way that they look f=
orward to the  trip."=0A>  =0A> Winston =0A> Churchill=0A> 
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>That spring length is =
for the car that Jim asked about, a Mk III Sprite.&nbsp; 1500 spring is lon=
ger<br></span></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><font style=3D"font-style:italic;=
color:rgb(0, 0, 0);" size=3D"4"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond, new yo=
rk, times, serif;"><span>Steve Christiansen</span><br></span></font><font s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);" size=3D"4"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond=
, new york, times, serif;"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-family:verd=
ana, helvetica, sans-serif;">Ol Phartz Partz</span><br style=3D"font-family=
:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family:verdana, helve=
tica, sans-serif;">949-716-2569 Office<br>714-686-1236 Cell</span><br style=
=3D"font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family=
:verdana,
 helvetica, sans-serif;">www.olphartz.com</span><br style=3D"font-family:ve=
rdana, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style=3D"font-family:verdana, helvetic=
a, sans-serif;">schris51@att.net</span></font></span></font><font style=3D"=
font-style:italic;" size=3D"4"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond, new yor=
k, times, serif;"><br></span></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>  <=
div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvet=
ica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <=
div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, =
Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D=
"1">  <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"=
>From:</span></b> "pcasey@hawaii.rr.com" &lt;pcasey@hawaii.rr.com&gt;<br> <=
b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> schris51@att.net <br> <=
b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 24,=
 2015 6:14 PM<br>
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [midgetsprit=
e] Lowering kit for MKIII Midget<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_con=
tainer"><br>Hey Chris-&nbsp; been following this (and several other) thread=
s...&nbsp; 9.85" free length is for which car?&nbsp; MKI, II, III, or 1500?=
&nbsp; I think the Rubber Baby Buggy Bumper ('75-'80) coil was longer, yes?=
&nbsp; Were the other/earlier coils all the same?&nbsp; I see Moss has some=
 high end Suplex (German) coils for sale in three weights:<br clear=3D"none=
"> <br clear=3D"none">std 9.5", no listed rate,<br clear=3D"none">fast road=
 8.5" 340 lbs/", and <br clear=3D"none">race 400 lbs/" - no listed length.<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Ron at Winner's Circle has some 500 lb=
s/" race springs, and lists three different stock springs for 948, 1098/127=
5, 1500.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I bought some progressively w=
ound coils for the F&amp;R of my Europa, from Carrera(? - I think... have t=
o check, as
 there are a few spring vendors out there), and they were beautiful- haven'=
t been able to test them yet, but the concept appeals to me enough that I w=
ould like to see if I can find them for my Bugeye and B.<br clear=3D"none">=
<br clear=3D"none">Cheers-<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Patrick<br =
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"qtdSepar=
ateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yqt7320897256" id=3D"yqtfd46705"><br cle=
ar=3D"none">---- "Steve Christiansen <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:sc=
hris51@att.net" href=3D"mailto:schris51@att.net";>schris51@att.net</a> [midg=
etsprite]" &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:midgetsprite@yahoogroups=
.com" href=3D"mailto:midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com";>midgetsprite@yahoogroups=
.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Jim, <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <b=
r clear=3D"none">&gt; The front spring free height is 9.85"&nbsp; Hope that=
 helps.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&=
gt;&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Steve
 Christiansen<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Ol Phartz Partz<br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 949-716-2569 Office<br clear=3D"none">&gt; 714-686-1236 Cell<br clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; www.olphartz.com<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:schris51@att.net"; href=3D"mailto:schris51@att.net";>schris51@att.=
net</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&=
gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; _______________________=
_________<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp; From: "'bmwwxman .' <a shape=3D"rect=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:bmwwxman@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:bmwwxman@gmail.com";>=
bmwwxman@gmail.com</a> [midgetsprite]" &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com" href=3D"mailto:midgetsprite@yahoogroups.c=
om">midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; To: Yahoo S=
pridget list &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:midgetsprite@yahoogrou=
ps.com" href=3D"mailto:midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com";>midgetsprite@yahoogrou=
ps.com</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:00 AM<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Subject: R=
e: [midgetsprite] Lowering kit for MKIII Midget<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp=
; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&n=
bsp;  <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Thanks for you input Gerard.&nbsp; That's why=
 I posed the question to the list.&nbsp; Those are things that crossed my m=
ind but without any experience I couldn't make an educated decision. List m=
embers have now provided that experience.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; Cheers!!<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Jim<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:15=
 AM, Gerard <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.co=
m" href=3D"mailto:pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com";>pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.co=
m</a> [midgetsprite] &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:midgetsprite@y=
ahoogroups.com" href=3D"mailto:midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com";>midgetsprite@y=
ahoogroups.com</a>&gt;
 wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp; <br clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; &gt;&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;The blocks are way too tal=
l for a Spridget, and the top and bottom are not parallel, which they shoul=
d be. Proportionally, they look at least 2.5 times thicker than what would =
give you what you need.&nbsp; Also, those locating pins to positively locat=
e the blocks are incorrect. The U-bolts are probably too wide also. I think=
 you=E2=80=99d have a total fail on your hands. <br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt=
;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;Using incorrect pa=
rts on the rear suspension can cause catastrophic failures with the suspens=
ion. If you must use a lowering kit, get one made to fit the car correctly =
at least.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; &gt;Gerard<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
; &gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;<br
 clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;On Feb 24, 2015, at 12:51 AM, <a shape=3D"rect=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com"; href=3D"mailto:midgetspri=
te@yahoogroups.com">midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com</a> wrote:<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;___________________________=
_____________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&g=
t;2a. Lowering kit for MKIII Midget<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;&nbsp;  =
Posted by: "bmwwxman ." <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bmwwxman@gmail.=
com" href=3D"mailto:bmwwxman@gmail.com";>bmwwxman@gmail.com</a> bmwwxman<br =
clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;&nbsp;  Date: Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:12 pm ((PST))<=
br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;Anyone famil=
iar with these?&nbsp; Will they work on my MKIII Midget?<br clear=3D"none">=
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;<a shape=3D"rect"
 href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BEN2V8Q/ref=3Ddra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_=
1000?tag=3Ddradisplay-20&amp;ascsubtag=3D3ecc01e844c7b94047d102497fb267a4_S=
&amp;dra_hfr=3Dx&amp;dra_ohs=3D24-48" target=3D"_blank">http://www.amazon.c=
om/dp/B00BEN2V8Q/ref=3Ddra_a_rv_ff_fx_it_P2000_1000?tag=3Ddradisplay-20&amp=
;ascsubtag=3D3ecc01e844c7b94047d102497fb267a4_S&amp;dra_hfr=3Dx&amp;dra_ohs=
=3D24-48</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt=
;-- <br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;Cheers!!<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt=
;Jim Johnson<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;High Plains Youth Hockey &lt;<a=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org/"; target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &=
gt;&gt;Dodge City Trail of Fame &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.do=
dgecitytrailoffame.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.=
org</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;Electronic Journal of Severe Sto=
rms Meteorology &lt;<a shape=3D"rect"
 href=3D"http://www.ejssm.org/"; target=3D"_blank">http://www.EJSSM.org</a>&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;*"Tact i=
s the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they<br clea=
r=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;look forward to the trip."*<br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;*Winston Churchill*<br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt=
;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; -- <br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Cheers!!<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Jim Johnson<b=
r clear=3D"none">&gt; High Plains Youth Hockey<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Dodge=
 City Trail of Fame <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Electronic Journal of Severe St=
orms Meteorology<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; "Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to&nbsp; hell in =
such a way that they look forward to
 the&nbsp; trip."<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Wins=
ton <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Churchill<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div>  </div></body></html>
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