I have realized that I am larger than I used to be. I don't fit well into my
'65 Sprite, but am okay in my MGB. I was wondering if anybody would be
interested in buying (or trading for) my Sprite. It runs well but needs a fuel
pump. Licensed/registered in California. Light yellow color. I accidentally
broke the right headlamp, so bought 2 to replace for a matched set, but have
not installed them, yet. Quite a few extra parts, good top, tonneau, body,
interior - has never been a ground-up restoration - but all original (except
for top and replaced lenses etc.). About 65,000 miles. I am near Los Angeles,
Camarillo. I have about $4,500 into it, including the original purchase and the
replacement pieces. Oh, also have a new Redline Weber carburetor.
If interested, let me know - scubadso@gmail.com or here. 805.216.2569
Thanks,
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 10:59:13 +0000 (UTC)
> From: ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net
> To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will do
> 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was modiifed
> by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a stock bugeye
> rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap out the stock
> bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve performance?
> Thanks
> Ryan
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 04:43:04 -0700
> From: <corvallis@peoplepc.com>
> To: <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> A 998 will have to work harder to get to 70mph than a 1275. The final ratio
> of engine rpm's to tire's distance/feet traveled also affects what you feel.
> Check to see what the 1960 has, rpm vs. tire travel. Some would put a larger
> tire on the back if they don't want the engine turning so fast at 70mph. If
> you want acceleration to 70, then your motor will have high rpm's when
> you're there cruising. Bill in Oregon
>
> _____
>
> From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:59 AM
> To: spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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>
>
> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will do
> 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a stock
> bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap out the
> stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve performance?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 07:03:49 -0500
> From: Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
> To: "ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net" <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> Ryan,
> I had no problem with a warmed up 948 and a 3.9. I drove the car from
> Louisville KY to Melbourne FL when I bought it and it would have been a
> reallllly long trip with the extra revs in my ears for 1000 miles.
>
> Ron Soave
>
> > On May 10, 2015, at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets
> > <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will do
> > 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> > modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a
> > stock bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap
> > out the stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve
> > performance?
> > Thanks
> > Ryan
> > ------------------------
> >
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 07:31:00 -0500
> From: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
> To: Ryan Kubanoff <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> Early Spridgets have 4.22 diff ratio. Later models have 3.9 and really
> late Midgets have 3.77. 3.9 and 3.7 are highly sought after for the very
> reason you mentioned. I've seen 3.9 and 3.7 diff chunks go for big bucks
> on ebay.
>
> >From mgexp.com:
> "'78 ~ '80 Midgets came with 3.77 ratio (8/'77, from GAN6-200001), better
> for highway use than the 3.9 used from 12/'68 ~ '77 (but the 3.77s are
> rare, so more expensive). "58 ~ '68 (948 and 1098cc) used 4.22. The ratio
> is stamped on the upper RH surface of the diff housing."
>
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> > So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will do
> > 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> > modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a
> > stock bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap
> > out the stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve
> > performance?
> > Thanks
> > Ryan
> >
> > ------------------------
> >
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 07:39:29 -0500
> From: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
> To: Ryan Kubanoff <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> You might also look into stronger axle shafts while you're doing rear end
> work. Any Spridget diff chunk should fit in your rear housing. Just drop
> the drive shaft, pop the axles out, and swap the chunk. Diff ratios are
> stamped on top of the chunk. "10/39" is 3.9. IIRC "9/38" is what you would
> have on your 4.22.
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> > So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will do
> > 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> > modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a
> > stock bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap
> > out the stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve
> > performance?
> > Thanks
> > Ryan
> >
> > ------------------------
> >
> > spridgets@autox.team.net
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 14:22:15 +0000 (UTC)
> From: ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net
> To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> So if I go to carlisle import show next weekend what should I be on the
> lookout for or what should I avoid? looking for rear pumpkin or whole rear
> axle? how can I tell if possible whats good and whats crap?
> Thanks
> Ryan
>
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> From: "derf" <derf247@gmail.com>
> To: "Ryan Kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:39:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
>
> You might also look into stronger axle shafts while you're doing rear end
> work. Any Spridget diff chunk should fit in your rear housing. Just drop the
> drive shaft, pop the axles out, and swap the chunk. Diff ratios are stamped
> on top of the chunk. "10/39" is 3.9. IIRC "9/38" is what you would have on
> your 4.22.
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net > wrote:
>
>
>
> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will do
> 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was modiifed
> by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a stock bugeye
> rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap out the stock
> bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve performance?
> Thanks
> Ryan
>
> ------------------------
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 09:29:40 -0500
> From: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
> To: Ryan Kubanoff <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> I know the basics but will have to defer on the details. This is where
> Frank would chime in and sort it all out. There are others who know and
> share, but none like him. Really miss that guy.
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:22 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> > So if I go to carlisle import show next weekend what should I be on the
> > lookout for or what should I avoid? looking for rear pumpkin or whole rear
> > axle? how can I tell if possible whats good and whats crap?
> > Thanks
> > Ryan
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From: *"derf" <derf247@gmail.com>
> > *To: *"Ryan Kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> > *Cc: *"spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> > *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:39:29 AM
> > *Subject: *Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
> >
> >
> > You might also look into stronger axle shafts while you're doing rear end
> > work. Any Spridget diff chunk should fit in your rear housing. Just drop
> > the drive shaft, pop the axles out, and swap the chunk. Diff ratios are
> > stamped on top of the chunk. "10/39" is 3.9. IIRC "9/38" is what you would
> > have on your 4.22.
> >
> > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> > spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> >> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will
> >> do 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> >> modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a
> >> stock bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap
> >> out the stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve
> >> performance?
> >> Thanks
> >> Ryan
> >>
> >> ------------------------
> >>
> >> spridgets@autox.team.net
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 10:41:30 -0400
> From: Ryan <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> To: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> Yep!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 10, 2015, at 10:29 AM, derf <derf247@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I know the basics but will have to defer on the details. This is where
> > Frank would chime in and sort it all out. There are others who know and
> > share, but none like him. Really miss that guy.
> >
> >> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:22 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets
> >> <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >> So if I go to carlisle import show next weekend what should I be on the
> >> lookout for or what should I avoid? looking for rear pumpkin or whole
> >> rear axle? how can I tell if possible whats good and whats crap?
> >> Thanks
> >> Ryan
> >>
> >> From: "derf" <derf247@gmail.com>
> >> To: "Ryan Kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> >> Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:39:29 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
> >>
> >>
> >> You might also look into stronger axle shafts while you're doing rear end
> >> work. Any Spridget diff chunk should fit in your rear housing. Just drop
> >> the drive shaft, pop the axles out, and swap the chunk. Diff ratios are
> >> stamped on top of the chunk. "10/39" is 3.9. IIRC "9/38" is what you
> >> would have on your 4.22.
> >>
> >>> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets
> >>> <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will
> >>> do 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> >>> modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a
> >>> stock bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I
> >>> swap out the stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that
> >>> improve performance?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Ryan
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------
> >>>
> >>> spridgets@autox.team.net
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> >>
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 09:47:59 -0500
> From: "bmwwxman ." <bmwwxman@gmail.com>
> To: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
> Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> Ryan,
>
> You only need the Differential which goes inside the pumpkin and rear
> axle. As Derf said you want one that has 10/39 on the top of the
> differential case but check yours first to see which you have now! There
> were at least 3 available. Early cars were 4.22 to 1, then there is 3.9 to
> 1 and the shorter 4.22 to 1. The 4.22 is great for autocross - the taller
> geared 3.77 for highway use. As was noted, the taller gears are getting
> hard to find and usually demand a suitable hunk of cash.
>
> If you find a 3.9 or 3.77 that's inside a rear axle case and the seller
> won't part it out, buy the whole thing. You'll need help picking it up!!
> DAMHIK....
>
> Cheers!
> Jim
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:29 AM, derf via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> > I know the basics but will have to defer on the details. This is where
> > Frank would chime in and sort it all out. There are others who know and
> > share, but none like him. Really miss that guy.
> >
> > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:22 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> > spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> >> So if I go to carlisle import show next weekend what should I be on the
> >> lookout for or what should I avoid? looking for rear pumpkin or whole rear
> >> axle? how can I tell if possible whats good and whats crap?
> >> Thanks
> >> Ryan
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From: *"derf" <derf247@gmail.com>
> >> *To: *"Ryan Kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> >> *Cc: *"spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> >> *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:39:29 AM
> >> *Subject: *Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
> >>
> >>
> >> You might also look into stronger axle shafts while you're doing rear end
> >> work. Any Spridget diff chunk should fit in your rear housing. Just drop
> >> the drive shaft, pop the axles out, and swap the chunk. Diff ratios are
> >> stamped on top of the chunk. "10/39" is 3.9. IIRC "9/38" is what you would
> >> have on your 4.22.
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> >> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will
> >>> do 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> >>> modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a
> >>> stock bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap
> >>> out the stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve
> >>> performance?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Ryan
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------
> >>>
> >>> spridgets@autox.team.net
> >>>
> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> From: Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
> To: "ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net" <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> Ryan,
> Don't sweat the axles unless the splines look twisted or chipped. The later
> axles are BTA 806 casting, located on the end cap. There was a competition
> model...BTA 940(? I think). They are hen's teeth. You've seen my car, I went
> 12 years without breaking one, even with a welded diff.
>
> As far as the diff, they are fairly robust. It should spin freely. Any
> ratchet feeling or like there's sand in them (or cedar chips in them Frank
> used to put in there to sell a car ;) ) and move on. The front pinion seals
> do leak, it's cheap seal to get, relatively easy to change if you have an
> impact wrench (the nut torque is like 200 foot pounds; just tighten the shit
> out of it and it's fine; my rule of thumb is 5 clicks after your harbor
> freight electric impact gun (fav tool, btw) runs out of steam!). You can
> check backlash if you want, specs are in the book, pretty straightforward to
> do, but if teeth look pristine you're probably ok.
>
> Price should be $75 to $125. I just paid $150 for a pristine welded one from
> Spridgetech.
>
> Hope that helps -
>
> Ron Soave
>
> > On May 10, 2015, at 9:22 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets
> > <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > So if I go to carlisle import show next weekend what should I be on the
> > lookout for or what should I avoid? looking for rear pumpkin or whole rear
> > axle? how can I tell if possible whats good and whats crap?
> > Thanks
> > Ryan
> >
> > From: "derf" <derf247@gmail.com>
> > To: "Ryan Kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> > Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:39:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
> >
> > You might also look into stronger axle shafts while you're doing rear end
> > work. Any Spridget diff chunk should fit in your rear housing. Just drop
> > the drive shaft, pop the axles out, and swap the chunk. Diff ratios are
> > stamped on top of the chunk. "10/39" is 3.9. IIRC "9/38" is what you would
> > have on your 4.22.
> >
> >> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets
> >> <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will do
> >> 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> >> modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a
> >> stock bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap
> >> out the stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve
> >> performance?
> >> Thanks
> >> Ryan
> >>
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 09:59:03 -0500
> From: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
> To: Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
> Cc: spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> I have a Harbor Freight Earthquake 1/2" pneumatic impact. It works better
> than MOST of the other impacts in the shop. The only ones that outperform
> it are the Snap On and similar brands that cost about 8 times as much. I
> brought my MAC 1/2" impact home and use the HF at work.
>
> $75 with coupon:
> http://www.hfqpdb.com/coupons/52_ITEM_1_2__INDUSTRIAL_QUALITY_SUPER_HIGH_TORQUE_IMPACT_WRENCH_1429840890.7106.jpg
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Ron Soave via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> > Ryan,
> > Don't sweat the axles unless the splines look twisted or chipped. The
> > later axles are BTA 806 casting, located on the end cap. There was a
> > competition model...BTA 940(? I think). They are hen's teeth. You've seen
> > my car, I went 12 years without breaking one, even with a welded diff.
> >
> > As far as the diff, they are fairly robust. It should spin freely. Any
> > ratchet feeling or like there's sand in them (or cedar chips in them Frank
> > used to put in there to sell a car ;) ) and move on. The front pinion seals
> > do leak, it's cheap seal to get, relatively easy to change if you have an
> > impact wrench (the nut torque is like 200 foot pounds; just tighten the
> > shit out of it and it's fine; my rule of thumb is 5 clicks after your
> > harbor freight electric impact gun (fav tool, btw) runs out of steam!).
> > You can check backlash if you want, specs are in the book, pretty
> > straightforward to do, but if teeth look pristine you're probably ok.
> >
> > Price should be $75 to $125. I just paid $150 for a pristine welded one
> > from Spridgetech.
> >
> > Hope that helps -
> >
> > Ron Soave
> >
> > On May 10, 2015, at 9:22 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> > spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > So if I go to carlisle import show next weekend what should I be on the
> > lookout for or what should I avoid? looking for rear pumpkin or whole rear
> > axle? how can I tell if possible whats good and whats crap?
> > Thanks
> > Ryan
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From: *"derf" <derf247@gmail.com>
> > *To: *"Ryan Kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> > *Cc: *"spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> > *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:39:29 AM
> > *Subject: *Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
> >
> > You might also look into stronger axle shafts while you're doing rear end
> > work. Any Spridget diff chunk should fit in your rear housing. Just drop
> > the drive shaft, pop the axles out, and swap the chunk. Diff ratios are
> > stamped on top of the chunk. "10/39" is 3.9. IIRC "9/38" is what you would
> > have on your 4.22.
> >
> > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> > spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> >> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will
> >> do 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> >> modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a
> >> stock bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap
> >> out the stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve
> >> performance?
> >> Thanks
> >> Ryan
> >>
> >> ------------------------
> >>
> >> spridgets@autox.team.net
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 11:03:22 -0400
> From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com
> To: bmwwxman@gmail.com, derf247@gmail.com
> Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
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> Not exactly!
>
> The differential doesn't change the gearing of the rear axle. The gearing
> of the rear axle is down to the ring and pinion or what we call over in
> the UK, the crownwheel and pinion.
>
> You want the ring and pinion fitted to the differential component and all
> fitted together in the differential as a single large component - what I
> believe you call the pumpkin. Probably your best bet is to simply buy a
> good
> 3.9 from Alan Fisher who is having a clear out.
>
> Changing the axle ratio doesn't improve the performance of the car it
> simply changes the gearing. To reduce the engine rpm for any given speed in
> 4th
> gear you need to replace the 4.22 diff with the 3.9 diff or fit a 5 speed
> gearbox with either.
>
> If your car is struggling to maintain 70 mph you need to understand if this
> is because the engine is really revving out (might have a diff lower than
> a 4.2 like a 4.5 or lower from a Morris Minor or whatever) or if the engine
> is simply not running well enough to get up the required revs.
>
> Regards
>
> Daniel
>
> PS: there are books with this stuff in...
>
>
> In a message dated 10/05/2015 15:51:41 GMT Daylight Time,
> spridgets@autox.team.net writes:
>
>
>
>
> You only need the Differential which goes inside the pumpkin and rear
> axle. As Derf said you want one that has 10/39 on the top of the
> differential
> case but check yours first to see which you have now! There were at least
> 3 available. Early cars were 4.22 to 1, then there is 3.9 to 1 and the
> shorter 4.22 to 1. The 4.22 is great for autocross - the taller geared 3.77
> for highway use. As was noted, the taller gears are getting hard to find
> and usually demand a suitable hunk of cash.
>
>
> If you find a 3.9 or 3.77 that's inside a rear axle case and the seller
> won't part it out, buy the whole thing. You'll need help picking it up!!
> DAMHIK....
>
>
> Cheers!
> Jim
>
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:29 AM, derf via Spridgets
> <_spridgets@autox.team.net_ (mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net) > wrote:
>
> I know the basics but will have to defer on the details. This is where
> Frank would chime in and sort it all out. There are others who know and
> share, but none like him. Really miss that guy.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:22 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets
> <_spridgets@autox.team.net_ (mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net) > wrote:
>
>
>
> So if I go to carlisle import show next weekend what should I be on the
> lookout for or what should I avoid? looking for rear pumpkin or whole rear
> axle? how can I tell if possible whats good and whats crap?
> Thanks
> Ryan
>
>
>
> ____________________________________
> From: "derf" <_derf247@gmail.com_ (mailto:derf247@gmail.com) >
> To: "Ryan Kubanoff" <_ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net_
> (mailto:ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net) >
> Cc: "spridgets" <_spridgets@autox.team.net_
> (mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net) >
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:39:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
>
>
>
>
> You might also look into stronger axle shafts while you're doing rear end
> work. Any Spridget diff chunk should fit in your rear housing. Just drop
> the drive shaft, pop the axles out, and swap the chunk. Diff ratios are
> stamped on top of the chunk. "10/39" is 3.9. IIRC "9/38" is what you would
> have on your 4.22.
>
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets
> <_spridgets@autox.team.net_ (mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net) > wrote:
>
>
>
> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that will do
> 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that was
> modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and a stock
> bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I swap out the
> stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve performance?
> Thanks
> Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 10:06:50 -0500
> From: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
> To: "WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com>
> Cc: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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> What we call the differential includes the ring and pinion. The assembly,
> or pumpkin, is what he needs.
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 10:03 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Not exactly!
> >
> > The differential doesn't change the gearing of the rear axle. The gearing
> > of the rear axle is down to the ring and pinion or what we call over in the
> > UK, the crownwheel and pinion.
> >
> > You want the ring and pinion fitted to the differential component and all
> > fitted together in the differential as a single large component - what I
> > believe you call the pumpkin. Probably your best bet is to simply buy a
> > good 3.9 from Alan Fisher who is having a clear out.
> >
> > Changing the axle ratio doesn't improve the performance of the car it
> > simply changes the gearing. To reduce the engine rpm for any given speed in
> > 4th gear you need to replace the 4.22 diff with the 3.9 diff or fit a 5
> > speed gearbox with either.
> >
> > If your car is struggling to maintain 70 mph you need to understand if
> > this is because the engine is really revving out (might have a diff lower
> > than a 4.2 like a 4.5 or lower from a Morris Minor or whatever) or if the
> > engine is simply not running well enough to get up the required revs.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > PS: there are books with this stuff in...
> >
> > In a message dated 10/05/2015 15:51:41 GMT Daylight Time,
> > spridgets@autox.team.net writes:
> >
> >
> > You only need the Differential which goes inside the pumpkin and rear
> > axle. As Derf said you want one that has 10/39 on the top of the
> > differential case but check yours first to see which you have now! There
> > were at least 3 available. Early cars were 4.22 to 1, then there is 3.9 to
> > 1 and the shorter 4.22 to 1. The 4.22 is great for autocross - the taller
> > geared 3.77 for highway use. As was noted, the taller gears are getting
> > hard to find and usually demand a suitable hunk of cash.
> >
> > If you find a 3.9 or 3.77 that's inside a rear axle case and the seller
> > won't part it out, buy the whole thing. You'll need help picking it up!!
> > DAMHIK....
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Jim
> >
> > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:29 AM, derf via Spridgets <
> > spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I know the basics but will have to defer on the details. This is where
> >> Frank would chime in and sort it all out. There are others who know and
> >> share, but none like him. Really miss that guy.
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:22 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> >> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So if I go to carlisle import show next weekend what should I be on
> >>> the lookout for or what should I avoid? looking for rear pumpkin or whole
> >>> rear axle? how can I tell if possible whats good and whats crap?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Ryan
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> *From: *"derf" <derf247@gmail.com>
> >>> *To: *"Ryan Kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net>
> >>> *Cc: *"spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> >>> *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 8:39:29 AM
> >>> *Subject: *Re: [Spridgets] More highway speed for a bugeye?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You might also look into stronger axle shafts while you're doing rear
> >>> end work. Any Spridget diff chunk should fit in your rear housing. Just
> >>> drop the drive shaft, pop the axles out, and swap the chunk. Diff ratios
> >>> are stamped on top of the chunk. "10/39" is 3.9. IIRC "9/38" is what you
> >>> would have on your 4.22.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:59 AM, ryan.kubanoff--- via Spridgets <
> >>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So i have a 74 midget with a 1275, rib case, and a stock rear that
> >>>> will do 70+ on a highway no problem. Last year I bought a 60 bugeye that
> >>>> was modiifed by the previous owner to have a 998 cc motor, rib case and
> >>>> a
> >>>> stock bugeye rear. It has more trouble with highway speeds. Could I
> >>>> swap
> >>>> out the stock bugeye rear for a late model midgets? Would that improve
> >>>> performance?
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> Ryan
> >>>>
> >>>
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