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Facet brand pumps don't stop running when up to pressure. They keep right o=
n banging along. It's not a "tick" like an SU pump either - very annoying.
Sent from my keyboard
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:54 AM, GUY DAY via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
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> Michael, you have had suggestions of:-
> Float adjustment
> Fuel Pressure
> Idle screw adjustment
> Semi blocked or blocked lines (add filters)
> Vacuum leaks
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> Just to round things off I'll add=20
> ignition timing.
> Dashpot oil
> Clogged up poppet valve
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> As it was running after you cleared the fuel lines last time and the pump s=
ounds to be running at all times it raises the question of where is all tha=
t pumped fuel going to? This may suggest a problem with the float operated s=
hut off valve. Were fuel lines blocked the pump would stop running as it wou=
ld be up to pressure. =20
> It is obviously something that has happened fairly quickly as it is presum=
ed it happened during the journey and it was ticking over OK (albeit with th=
e choke on) when you left the house. As it runs OK at higher revs this may s=
uggest it is NOT a blockage problem. =20
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> Guy R Day
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> On Sunday, 25 October 2015, 2:46, WFO Herb via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
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> What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle screw)? Perhaps it's just=
set too low to idle.
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> What psi range does the pump run? 1.5 to 3.5 is good for these carbs, rig=
ht.
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> Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets?
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> No vacuum leaks...right?
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> Herb=20
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> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
> Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight. Could not get it to id=
le. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die. I recently had a pr=
oblem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving i=
t sit in the garage for a few months without starting it. I installed a new=
Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me lik=
e the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a=
1/4 tank left. As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, i=
t ran like a scalded cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand mil=
es ago is finally breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I hav=
e a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining th=
e old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free ga=
s. I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol. It ran great fo=
r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and woul=
d idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it=
running. I hate this Kalifornia gas.
> Mike MacLean
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Facet brand pumps don't stop running w=
hen up to pressure. They keep right on banging along. It's not a=
"tick" like an SU pump either - very annoying.<br><br>Sent from my keyboard=
</div><div><br>On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:54 AM, GUY DAY via Spridgets <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote=
:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"color:#000; back=
ground-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ari=
al, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167"><div=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_14924"><div style=3D"color:#000;background=
-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Luc=
ida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_149=
23"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_144576056=
6878_12759"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_12758" style=3D=
"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue,=
Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;"><div id=3D"yiv=
3864422167"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_10189"><div i=
d=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_10188" style=3D"color:#000;back=
ground-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Aria=
l, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167"><div=
id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_7484"><div id=3D"yiv386442216=
7yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_7483" style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;=
font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, S=
ans-Serif;font-size:16px;"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_144576056687=
8_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3361">Michael, y=
ou have had suggestions of:-</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_=
1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_33=
62">Float adjustment</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_144576=
0566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3363">Fuel=
Pressure</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_307=
6"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3364">Idle screw adju=
stment</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076">=
<span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3145">Semi blocked or bl=
ocked lines (add filters)</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1=
445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3480"=
>Vacuum leaks</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878=
_3076"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_144576056687=
8_3574">Just to round things off I'll add </span></div><div id=3D"yiv38=
64422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0=
_1_1445760566878_12770">ignition timing.</span></div><div id=3D"yiv386442216=
7yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076">Dashpot oil<br></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422=
167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_14=
45760566878_13261">Clogged up poppet valve</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422=
167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span cla=
ss=3D"yiv3864422167" id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_7676">As i=
t was running after you cleared the fuel lines last time and the pump sounds=
to be running at all times it raises the question of </span> wher=
e is all that pumped fuel going to? This may suggest a problem with th=
e float operated shut off valve. Were fuel lines blocked the pump would stop=
running as it would be up to pressure. </div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1445760566878_14950">It is obviously something that has happened fairly quic=
kly as it is presumed it happened during the journey and it was ticking over=
OK (albeit with the choke on) when you left the house. As it runs OK a=
t higher revs this may suggest it is NOT a blockage problem. </span></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><sp=
an><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760=
566878_3076">Guy R Day</div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_14457605668=
78_3076"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div> <br clear=3D"none"><div cla=
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v dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15494"> <font size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15496"> On Sunday, 25 October 20=
15, 2:46, WFO Herb via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.=
net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </di=
v> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv3864422167y_msg_=
container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15333"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167"=
><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15332"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1445760566878_15348">What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle s=
crew)? Perhaps it's just set too low to idle.<div><br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div>What psi range does the pump run? 1.5 to 3.5 is good for the=
se carbs, right.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Chance of rust/junk=
in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets?</div><div><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15347">No vacuum leaks...righ=
t?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Herb </div><div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div class=3D"yiv3864422167=
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On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <span dir=3D"=
ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@auto=
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ff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;" id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15341"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14457=
60566878_15340"> Took the Bugeye out to run an erran=
d tonight. Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the=
gas it would die. I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the ga=
s plugging up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few m=
onths without starting it. I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I ca=
n hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty=
, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left. As l=
ong as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded=
cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is final=
ly breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new on=
e ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old etha=
nol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas. I=
thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol. It ran great fo=
r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and woul=
d idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it=
running. I hate this Kalifornia gas.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_=
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