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EdwardI have never heard of 'universal flares'. =C2=A0Pipe end flares are e=
ither either a dome shape (male or single flare) or a funnel shape (female =
or double flare). To place it in the context most will understand it requir=
es opposite sexes to seat correctly. =C2=A0Next are the nuts that hold them=
together, if you have the correct threads for these they SHOULD be OK. =C2=
=A0(There are 4 or 5 threads in circulation with the main split in more mod=
ern vehicles being Metric or UNF) =C2=A0They should turn fairly resistance =
free by hand upto the last tightening spanner turn. =C2=A0If a male nut on =
the pipe you MAY find this nut is not long enough as there is a small unthr=
eaded portion at the start of the male nuts and this can be in different le=
ngths. =C2=A0If you tighten the nut up by hand this should stop any back an=
d forth movement of the pipe, if there is movement, the unthreaded bit of t=
he nut is not long enough. =C2=A0The inner part of this nut contains a tape=
r to seat and push on the pipe end to help make the joint. =C2=A0The nut do=
es not provide the seal, this comes from the pipe flare the nut pushes.=C2=
=A0There are other minor differences (but ones you should be aware of) in t=
he angle of the flare dependant on the former =C2=A0that made the flare and=
it COULD be you are experiencing a mis-match problem but Kunifer (copper-n=
ickel) pipes are normally soft enough to overcome this and will deform and =
seal. =C2=A0This very rare.=C2=A0Other problems could well be dirt in the f=
itting or deformed (crossed) threads cocking the nut over slightly. =C2=A0W=
hatever else you try, DO NOT use teflon or other sealing tape, =C2=A0'O' ri=
ngs or any other kind of washer. =C2=A0It may be you have to cut the flare =
off, then source a different nut or have a different flare at the pipe end.=
=C2=A0If they don't seal when dry there is usually something you can see v=
isibly wrong.Ring the pipe supplier to ask for help to see if he has any th=
oughts, but please don't ring him saying he has supplied the wrong end - he=
may well have - but the difference between asking for help and laying imme=
diate blame can sometimes be the difference between having a new set f.o.c.=
or having to return the old pipe etc....
Best of luck
Guy R Day=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=20
On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 2:42, EDWARD via Spridgets <spridgets@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
=20
=20
List,=C2=A0I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, =
no matter what I try.=C2=A0Anyone with similar experience with these "unive=
rsal" flares?=C2=A0Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?=C2=A0Ed Woo=
ds
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7375"><spa=
n>Edward</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7377" dir=3D"ltr=
"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7376">I have never heard of 'unive=
rsal flares'. Pipe end flares are either either a dome shape (male or=
single flare) or a funnel shape (female or double flare). To place it in t=
he context most will understand it requires opposite sexes to seat correctl=
y. Next are the nuts that hold them together, if you have the correct=
threads for these they SHOULD be OK. (There are 4 or 5 threads in ci=
rculation with the main split in more modern vehicles being Metric or UNF) =
They should turn fairly resistance free by hand upto the last tighten=
ing spanner turn. If a male nut on the pipe you MAY find this nut is =
not long enough as there is a small unthreaded portion at the start of the =
male nuts and this can be in different lengths. If you tighten the nu=
t up by hand this should stop any back and forth movement of the pipe, if t=
here is movement, the unthreaded bit of the nut is not long enough. T=
he inner part of this nut contains a taper to seat and push on the pipe end=
to help make the joint. The nut does not provide the seal, this come=
s from the pipe flare the nut pushes. </span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_1_1446024907422_7379" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422=
_7378">There are other minor differences (but ones you should be aware of) =
in the angle of the flare dependant on the former that made the flare=
and it COULD be you are experiencing a mis-match problem but Kunifer (copp=
er-nickel) pipes are normally soft enough to overcome this and will deform =
and seal. This very rare. </span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
446024907422_7379" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_8000"=
>Other problems could well be dirt in the fitting or deformed (crossed) thr=
eads cocking the nut over slightly. Whatever else you try, DO NOT use=
teflon or other sealing tape, 'O' rings or any other kind of washer.=
It may be you have to cut the flare off, then source a different nut=
or have a different flare at the pipe end. If they don't seal when d=
ry there is usually something you can see visibly wrong.</span></div><div i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7379" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1446024907422_9166">Ring the pipe supplier to ask for help to see if he has=
any thoughts, but please don't ring him saying he has supplied the wrong e=
nd - he may well have - but the difference between asking for help and layi=
ng immediate blame can sometimes be the difference between having a new set=
f.o.c. or having to return the old pipe etc....</span></div><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7379" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7379" dir=3D"ltr"><span>Best of luck</span></di=
v><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7379" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span>=
</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7379" dir=3D"ltr"><span>Guy R D=
ay</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7379" dir=3D"ltr"><spa=
n> </span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_7379"><span id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446024907422_8013"> </span></div>=
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, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font siz=
e=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 2:42, EDWARD via Spr=
idgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br>=
<div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv1773929392"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><div><br>List,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no mat=
ter what I try.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Ed Woods</div></div></div></div><br>------------------------<br><br><a=
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