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Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: I've gone to the Dark Side-

To: David Booker <tncarnut1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: I've gone to the Dark Side-
From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 22:31:07 -0600
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Everything my company makes, buys and sells is American (unless Tim doesn't h=
ave any choice). The jobs are real, the people are real. It matters.=20

How about our local Rockford boys Cheap Trick making the Rock and Roll Hall o=
f Fame today?? Zoom should have been there as well. This is what goes throug=
h my head when the green flag drops -=20

http://youtu.be/QK72bHiqM-Q

So underrated - Green Day needs to pay homage to the riffs, and you can even=
 hear the influence of Cobain's snarl in Robin. They have been incredible in=
 helping this depressed area as best they can after manufacturing left here f=
or China over the past 3 decades. Could not happen to nicer people.=20

Ron Soave

www.kaneyaerospace.com

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 9:57 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>=20
> My Nissan Frontier was built about ten miles up the road from here with pa=
rts sourced from at least the States and Japan. The BGT is certainly all Bri=
tish, and I'm pretty sure all the parts of my '94 Harley are American (wait a=
 minute, which carb do I have...)  The Honda and Suzuki ATV's are both '02 m=
odels, pretty sure they brought them over pre-assembled in crates except may=
be for the handle bars and rear wheels. Also, back in the eighties, I bought=
 a new Mercury wagon that was built in Mexico, yet based on Japanese (Mazda)=
 parts...=20
>=20
>  - David
>=20
>=20
> From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> To: rrengineer.mike <rrengineer.mike@att.net>=20
> Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: I've gone to the Dark Side-
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> The Harley has CHINESE parts on it. Ask me how I know... (Failing saddleba=
g fasteners...)
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> Ron Soave
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>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 4:51 PM, rrengineer.mike via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
>>=20
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> My 2012 Accord is built in Ohio with American and Japanese parts, but ever=
yone still calls it a Japanese car. My 2000 F 150 is made in America, but th=
e engine is built in Canada and I found "Made in Mexico" on the rear leaf sp=
rings. That's called an American truck.  Now I have been told my Harley Davi=
dson has Japanese parts on it.  I hope not.  The only pure design I have is m=
y Bugeye and my BN2.  Conceived, built and parts sourced from one country.  T=
hat's why you can say, "they don't make 'em like that anymore."
> Mike MacLean
>=20
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> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Martyn Ridley via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>=20
> Date: 12/17/2015 1:51 PM (GMT-08:00)=20
> To: spridgets@autox.team.net=20
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: I've gone to the Dark Side-=20
>=20
> So I have a an "American" car (Jaguar - owned by Ford at the time) made in=
 England, I still think its British, as is my Japanese car (Honda SiR) made i=
n England (where my MGB body came from).  Who gives a 'flying puck'? (note C=
DN reference to keep tone civil).  But to be honest, not all Minis come from=
 Blighty, the ones on steroids are made in Austria.
> And as for 'American cars', many are now made in Mexico, or Canaada, does t=
hat devalue the "Detroit dinosaur" worse than it already is?
>=20
> There really is no 'dark side' only 'butter side down', its all toast - re=
ally.
>=20
> Cheers,
> Martyn
>=20
>> On 12/17/2015 3:58 PM, rrengineer.mike via Spridgets wrote:
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> We have Japanese cars made here in the USA. We don't call them American ca=
rs.
> Mike MacLean
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> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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> Date: 12/17/2015 12:49 PM (GMT-08:00)=20
> To: rrengineer.mike@att.net, spridgets@autox.team.net=20
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: I've gone to the Dark Side-=20
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> The German car is made in England but owned by a Germany company.
> =20
> In a message dated 16/12/2015 23:03:04 GMT Standard Time, spridgets@autox.=
team.net writes:
> You now have an American car and a German car.
> Mike MacLean
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Everything my company makes, buys and s=
ells is American (unless Tim doesn't have any choice). The jobs are real, th=
e people are real. It matters.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>How about our l=
ocal Rockford boys Cheap Trick making the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame today??=
 Zoom should have been there as well. This is what goes through my head when=
 the green flag drops -&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://you=
tu.be/QK72bHiqM-Q">http://youtu.be/QK72bHiqM-Q</a></div><div><br></div><div>=
So underrated - Green Day needs to pay homage to the riffs, and you can even=
 hear the influence of Cobain's snarl in Robin. They have been incredible in=
 helping this depressed area as best they can after manufacturing left here f=
or China over the past 3 decades. Could not happen to nicer people.&nbsp;<br=
><br><div>Ron Soave</div></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.kan=
eyaerospace.com">www.kaneyaerospace.com</a></div><div><br>On Dec 17, 2015, a=
t 9:57 PM, David Booker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tncarnut1@yahoo.com";>tncarnut1=
@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div s=
tyle=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, H=
elvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-s=
erif;font-size:14px"><div><span></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450409=
623258_5011" dir=3D"ltr">My Nissan Frontier was built about ten miles&nbsp;u=
p the road from here with parts sourced from at least&nbsp;the States and&nb=
sp;Japan. The BGT is certainly&nbsp;all British, and I'm pretty sure all the=
 parts of my '94 Harley are American (wait a minute, which carb do I have...=
)&nbsp;&nbsp;The Honda and Suzuki ATV's are both&nbsp;'02 models, pretty&nbs=
p;sure they brought them&nbsp;over&nbsp;pre-assembled&nbsp;in&nbsp;crates ex=
cept maybe for the handle bars and rear wheels.&nbsp;Also, back in the eight=
ies, I bought a new Mercury wagon that was built in Mexico, yet based on&nbs=
p;Japanese (Mazda) parts...&nbsp; </div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145040962325=
8_5009" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450409623258_5010" di=
r=3D"ltr">&nbsp;- David</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1450409623258_4869"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1450409623258_4862" style=3D"display: block;">  <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1450409623258_4861" style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica N=
eue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font=
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ily: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-se=
rif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450409623258_4859" dir=3D"l=
tr"> <font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450409623258_4868" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">=
 <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450409623258_4867"> <b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Ron Soave via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:spridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br> <b><span=
 style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> rrengineer.mike &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt; <br><b><span=
 style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:=
 bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 17, 2015 6:46 PM<br> <b><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: I've gon=
e to the Dark Side-<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1450409623258_5015"><br><div id=3D"yiv2753394284"><div><div>The=
 Harley has CHINESE parts on it. Ask me how I know... (Failing saddlebag fas=
teners...)<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Ron Soave</div><div><div cla=
ss=3D"yiv2753394284yqt7176377174" id=3D"yiv2753394284yqtfd52934"><br clear=3D=
"none">On Dec 17, 2015, at 4:51 PM, rrengineer.mike via Spridgets &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv2753394284yqt7176377174" id=3D"yiv2753394284yqtfd75770"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"yiv2753394=
284yqt7176377174" id=3D"yiv2753394284yqtfd68698"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145=
0409623258_5014"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450409623258_5013">My 2012 Accord i=
s built in Ohio with American and Japanese parts, but everyone still calls i=
t a Japanese car. My 2000 F 150 is made in America, but the engine is built i=
n Canada and I found "Made in Mexico" on the rear leaf springs. That's calle=
d an American truck. &nbsp;Now I have been told my Harley Davidson has Japan=
ese parts on it. &nbsp;I hope not. &nbsp;The only pure design I have is my B=
ugeye and my BN2. &nbsp;Conceived, built and parts sourced from one country.=
 &nbsp;That's why you can say, "they don't make 'em like that anymore."</div=
><div>Mike MacLean</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450409623258_5016"><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14504=
09623258_5017"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv2753394284composer_sig=
nature"><div style=3D"color: rgb(87, 87, 87); font-size: 85%;">Sent via the S=
amsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none">-------- Original message --------<br clear=3D"non=
e">From: Martyn Ridley via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:spridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"non=
e">Date: 12/17/2015  1:51 PM  (GMT-08:00) <br clear=3D"none">To: <a href=3D"=
mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net<=
/a> <br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: I've gone to the Dark S=
ide- <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"yiv2753394284moz-cite-prefix">So I have a an "American" ca=
r (Jaguar -
      owned by Ford at the time) made in England, I still think its
      British, as is my Japanese car (Honda SiR) made in England (where
      my MGB body came from).&nbsp; Who gives a 'flying puck'? (note CDN
      reference to keep tone civil).&nbsp; But to be honest, not all Minis
      come from Blighty, the ones on steroids are made in Austria.<br clear=3D=
"none">
      And as for 'American cars', many are now made in Mexico, or
      Canaada, does that devalue the "Detroit dinosaur" worse than it
      already is?<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      There really is no 'dark side' only 'butter side down', its all
      toast - really.<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      Cheers,<br clear=3D"none">
      Martyn<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      On 12/17/2015 3:58 PM, rrengineer.mike via Spridgets wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv2753394284yqt7176377174=
" id=3D"yiv2753394284yqtfd86608"><div>We have Japanese cars made here in the=
 USA. We don't call
        them American cars.</div>
      <div>Mike MacLean</div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div><br clear=3D"none">
      </div>
      <div id=3D"yiv2753394284composer_signature">
        <div style=3D"color: rgb(87, 87, 87); font-size: 85%;">Sent via the S=
amsung
          GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE smartphone</div>
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      <br clear=3D"none">
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      -------- Original message --------<br clear=3D"none">
      From: <a class=3D"yiv2753394284moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailt=
o:WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com";>WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com</a> <=
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      Date: 12/17/2015 12:49 PM (GMT-08:00) <br clear=3D"none">
      To: <a class=3D"yiv2753394284moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:=
rrengineer.mike@att.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>, <a cl=
ass=3D"yiv2753394284moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mail=
to:spridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a> <br clear=3D"none"=
>
      Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: I've gone to the Dark Side- <br clear=3D=
"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <font id=3D"yiv2753394284role_document" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Aria=
l" size=3D"2">
        </font><div>The German car is made in England but owned by a Germany=

          company.</div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div>
          <div>In a message dated 16/12/2015 23:03:04 GMT Standard Time,
            <a class=3D"yiv2753394284moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailt=
o:spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
" ymailto=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a> w=
rites:</div>
          <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-l=
eft-color: blue; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;"><font co=
lor=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2" style=3D"background-color: transpa=
rent;">
              </font><div>You now have an American car and a German car.</di=
v>
              <div>Mike MacLean</div>
            </blockquote>
        </div>
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