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Re: [Spridgets] Diagnostic question

To: "crusaderchuck55@aol.com" <crusaderchuck55@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Diagnostic question
From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 22:56:10 -0500
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What's up with the gas gauge, though? There isn't a milliamp left to keep th=
at needle ticking?

Ron Soave

> On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:46 PM, crusaderchuck55@aol.com via Spridgets <spridg=
ets@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Vehicular electronics 101:
> The starter motor is the only device that in it's operation draws a full 1=
2 volts. So if you have dirty battery terminals there is excessive resistanc=
e And any corrosion or dirt in following connections from the battery to the=
 starter , power at the starter is compromised.  If the starter brushes are e=
xcessively worn or one of the brush springs are broken the starter will not r=
espond correctly to your "start" request.  A serious situation could have th=
e armature binding in the bushings it rides in.  Its time to go hunting for w=
hat is wrong.   When you find it you'll be amazed how small & simple the off=
ending problem is for how much grief it provides before detection & repair.
> Chuck.
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> Sent from my LG Mobile
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> ------ Original message------
> From: rrengineer.mike via Spridgets
> Date: Sat, Jul 2, 2016 7:24 PM
> To: Pboser Yahoo;spridgets@autox.team.net;
> Subject:Re: [Spridgets] Diagnostic question
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> Try the simple things first.  Clean the posts on the battery and the cable=
 connectors, charge the battery overnight on one of those float chargers. Si=
mply driving the car will not bring it back up all the way.  If the problem p=
ersists, clean all connections to the starter on both ends and try again, TH=
EN you can think about the starter as the culprit. At this point, pull the s=
tarter and put 12 volts directly to it with jumper cables.  If she spins up,=
 your battery is probably crap.  Or, get the battery tested first.  I have f=
ound 75 to 80% of the time corrosion on the battery terminals cause this kin=
d of symptoms.
> Mike MacLean.
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> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Pboser Yahoo via Spridgets >=20
> Date: 7/2/2016 12:22 PM (GMT-08:00)=20
> To: spridgets@autox.team.net=20
> Subject: [Spridgets] Diagnostic question=20
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> Hi all,
> My 59 Bugeye spends most of the time in the garage, but I periodically get=
 to drag it out. Although it has had a weak battery, it usually charges up a=
nd comes to life. However, I am having a starter problem and I'm looking for=
 help to diagnose it.
> First of all, be aware that the car will run start and run fine if I push s=
tart it.
> However, when I pull on the starter knob, the gas gauge goes to zero but t=
he starter doesn't function.=20
> Any thoughts on diagnosing the problem? I'm getting tired of push- startin=
g! It's too flat around here!
> Thanks,
> Pete
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> Sent from my iPhone
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>What's up with the gas gauge, though? T=
here isn't a milliamp left to keep that needle ticking?<br><br>Ron Soave</di=
v><div><br>On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:46 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:crusaderchuck55@ao=
l.com">crusaderchuck55@aol.com</a> via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sprid=
gets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div>



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    <div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; "><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0;ma=
rgin-bottom:0;">Vehicular electronics 101:</p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin=
-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">The starter motor is the only device that in it's o=
peration draws a full 12 volts. So if you have dirty battery terminals there=
 is excessive resistance And any corrosion or dirt in following connections f=
rom the battery to the starter , power at the starter is compromised. &nbsp;=
If the starter brushes are excessively worn or one of the brush springs are b=
roken the starter will not respond correctly to your "start" request. &nbsp;=
A serious situation could have the armature binding in the bushings it rides=
 in. &nbsp;Its time to go hunting for what is wrong. &nbsp; When you find it=
 you'll be amazed how small &amp; simple the offending problem is for how mu=
ch grief it provides before detection &amp; repair.</p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D=
"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">Chuck.</p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top=
:0;margin-bottom:0;"><br></p><div id=3D"SignatureBox" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"m=
argin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">Sent from my LG Mobile</div></div>


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in-bottom:0;"><br></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"=
>------ Original message------</p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0;margi=
n-bottom:0;"><b>From: </b>rrengineer.mike via Spridgets<spridgets@autox.team=
.net></spridgets@autox.team.net></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0;mar=
gin-bottom:0;"><b>Date: </b>Sat, Jul 2, 2016 7:24 PM</p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=
=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"><b>To: </b>Pboser Yahoo<a href=3D"mailto:=
;spridgets@autox.team.net">;spridgets@autox.team.net</a>;</p><p dir=3D"ltr" s=
tyle=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"><b>Subject:</b>Re: [Spridgets] Diagno=
stic question</p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"><br>=
</p></div>    <div dir=3D"ltr">Try the simple things first. &nbsp;Clean the p=
osts on the battery and the cable connectors, charge the battery overnight o=
n one of those float chargers. Simply driving the car will not bring it back=
 up all the way. &nbsp;If the problem persists, clean all connections to the=
 starter on both ends and try again, THEN you can think about the starter as=
 the culprit. At this point, pull the starter and put 12 volts directly to i=
t with jumper cables. &nbsp;If she spins up, your battery is probably crap. &=
nbsp;Or, get the battery tested first. &nbsp;I have found 75 to 80% of the t=
ime corrosion on the battery terminals cause this kind of symptoms.</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"composer_signature" dir=3D"=
ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir=3D"ltr">Sent via the Sam=
sung GALAXY S=C2=AE 5, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br><br>----=
---- Original message --------<br>From: Pboser Yahoo via Spridgets <a href=3D=
"mailto:&lt;spridgets@autox.team.net";><spridgets@autox.team.net< a=3D"">&gt;=
 </spridgets@autox.team.net<></a><br>Date: 7/2/2016  12:22 PM  (GMT-08:00) <=
br>To:<a href=3D"mailto: spridgets@autox.team.net"> spridgets@autox.team.net=
</a> <br>Subject: [Spridgets] Diagnostic question <br><br>Hi all,<br>My 59 B=
ugeye spends most of the time in the garage, but I periodically get to drag i=
t out. Although it has had a weak battery, it usually charges up and comes t=
o life. However, I am having a starter problem and I'm looking for help to d=
iagnose it.<br>First of all, be aware that the car will run start and run fi=
ne if I push start it.<br>However, when I pull on the starter knob, the gas g=
auge goes to zero but the starter doesn't function. <br>Any thoughts on diag=
nosing the problem? I'm getting tired of push- starting! It's too flat aroun=
d here!<br>Thanks,<br>Pete<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br><br>Sent from m=
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