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Re: [Spridgets] Flasher Units

To: Bruce Hamper <brucehamper@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flasher Units
From: Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 07:13:05 -0400
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Got it Bruce, thanks for the lesson, I saw it on my schematic yesterday and
I think I saw that little silver can under the bonnet so I'll check it out.
Great info that the 4 way safety flasher was added in 1968.
Lin
62 Sprite "Pinky"

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Bruce Hamper <brucehamper@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Lin,
> I was referring to the standard turn signal.  There's a small metal can on
> the firewall (right-hand side) that controls the flashing of the turn
> signals.  This flasher unit is the '522' round can or an original equipment
> rectangular can.  It does not serve as a hazard flasher - all four corners
> flashing at once.  The hazard circuit was not added until about 1968 with
> the HAN9 Sprite or GAN4 Midget.  My '69 Sprite has the hazard circuit with
> its own separate flasher unit, but my 59 Bugeye lacks that safety feature.
> You would need to add a whole new circuit to put a hazard switch in the
> earlier Spridgets.  Possible, but a lot of work!
> Bruce
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 5:41 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bruce and Spridgeteers,
>> My stupid question is, what do you mean by flasher is that hazard lights?
>> I'm making sure my little 62 Spridget electrical are all sorted out and
>> nothing new like 4way flashers as my LBC is my learning tool to the
>> wonderful world of basic auto electrics....LOL.
>> Thanks Lin
>> 62 Sprite "Pinky"
>> Running well tuneup next and some body repairs.
>> My video:
>> https://youtu.be/OMgpZQXuGSk
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Bruce Hamper via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's some interesting observations with flasher units.
>>> I recently had the flasher unit in my '69 Sprite fail. It occurred
>>> during my trip back from MG2016 from Louisville to St. Louis.  The lights
>>> all worked, but were on continually when using the stalk turn signal.
>>> That's not much of a problem, however flipping the stalk switch on and off
>>> to mimic a flasher gets annoying!
>>> Once I got back home, I ordered up a new, correct flasher unit (8-512,
>>> square unit) from VB.  I was surprised to find that it also did not flash
>>> the lights - constant on when using the stalk switch.  The old unit was
>>> revived briefly by putting it back in the car and tapping the side of the
>>> metal can.  Works just like a broken fuel pump!  Turns out the new square
>>> unit would not flash, even after tapping, hitting, dropping on floor, etc.
>>> The new units are only rated (as noted on the metal can) to 47W max.  Two
>>> old style tungsten lamps (original style 1156 bulbs; 27W each) would draw
>>> 54W at 13V.  As expected the new square flasher got very hot while engaged
>>> in the circuit.  I don't see how these new units can possibly work unless
>>> you have lower amperage lamps.
>>> I switched to a generic flasher unit from Riley; a DOT 522 round can
>>> flasher.  It works great!  Hope this saves someone on the list some time.
>>> Happy 4th of July and may all your flashers work!
>>> Bruce
>>>
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>>
>>
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>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Got it Bruce, thanks for the lesson, I saw it on my schema=
tic yesterday and I think I saw that little silver can under the bonnet so =
I&#39;ll check it out. Great info that the 4 way safety flasher was added i=
n 1968.<div><div>Lin</div><div>62 Sprite &quot;Pinky&quot;</div></div></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 14, =
2016 at 9:38 PM, Bruce Hamper <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bruce=
hamper@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">brucehamper@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wr=
ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Hi Lin,<b=
r></div>I was referring to the standard turn signal.=C2=A0 There&#39;s a sm=
all metal can on the firewall (right-hand side) that controls the flashing =
of the turn signals.=C2=A0 This flasher unit is the &#39;522&#39; round can=
 or an original equipment rectangular can.=C2=A0 It does not serve as a haz=
ard flasher - all four corners flashing at once.=C2=A0 The hazard circuit w=
as not added until about 1968 with the HAN9 Sprite or GAN4 Midget.=C2=A0 My=
 &#39;69 Sprite has the hazard circuit with its own separate flasher unit, =
but my 59 Bugeye lacks that safety feature.=C2=A0 You would need to add a w=
hole new circuit to put a hazard switch in the earlier Spridgets.=C2=A0 Pos=
sible, but a lot of work!<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br=
></font></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">Bruce<b=
r></font></span></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 5:41 A=
M, Linda Grunthaner <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:grunthaner@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">grunthaner@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Bruce and Spridgeteers,=
</div>My stupid question is, what do you mean by flasher is that hazard lig=
hts? I&#39;m making sure my little 62 Spridget electrical are all sorted ou=
t and nothing new like 4way flashers as my LBC is my learning tool to the w=
onderful world of basic auto electrics....LOL.<div>Thanks Lin</div><div>62 =
Sprite &quot;Pinky&quot;</div><div>Running well tuneup next and some body r=
epairs.</div><div><div style=3D"font-size:13px">My video:</div><div style=
=3D"font-size:13px"><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/OMgpZQXuGSk"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://youtu.be/OMgpZQXuGSk</a></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 12:34=
 PM, Bruce Hamper via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spr=
idgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>Here&#39;s some interesting observations wit=
h flasher units.<br>I recently had the flasher unit in my &#39;69 Sprite fa=
il. It occurred during my trip back from MG2016 from Louisville to St. Loui=
s.=C2=A0 The lights all worked, but were on continually when using the stal=
k turn signal.=C2=A0 That&#39;s not much of a problem, however flipping the=
 stalk switch on and off to mimic a flasher gets annoying!=C2=A0 <br></div>=
Once I got back home, I ordered up a new, correct flasher unit (8-512, squa=
re unit) from VB.=C2=A0 I was surprised to find that it also did not flash =
the lights - constant on when using the stalk switch.=C2=A0 The old unit wa=
s revived briefly by putting it back in the car and tapping the side of the=
 metal can.=C2=A0 Works just like a broken fuel pump!=C2=A0 Turns out the n=
ew square unit would not flash, even after tapping, hitting, dropping on fl=
oor, etc.=C2=A0 The new units are only rated (as noted on the metal can) to=
 47W max.=C2=A0 Two old style tungsten lamps (original style 1156 bulbs; 27=
W each) would draw 54W at 13V.=C2=A0 As expected the new square flasher got=
 very hot while engaged in the circuit.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t see how these new=
 units can possibly work unless you have lower amperage lamps.=C2=A0 <br></=
div>I switched to a generic flasher unit from Riley; a DOT 522 round can fl=
asher.=C2=A0 It works great!=C2=A0 Hope this saves someone on the list some=
 time.<br></div>Happy 4th of July and may all your flashers work!<span><fon=
t color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></div><span><font color=3D"#888888">B=
ruce<br></font></span></div>
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