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Re: [Spridgets] Axle seal failure / wheel cylinder failure

To: Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Axle seal failure / wheel cylinder failure
From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 19:48:24 -0400
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If you just want to replace the o-ring and gasket under the axle flange you d=
o not have to remove the hub.  If you want to replace the seal that rides on=
 the axle housing then yes, you have to pull the hub.


Sent from my keyboard

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:58 PM, Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
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> No hub removal. Should take all of 25 minutes to do.=20
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> Ron Soave
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>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Lester via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
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>> Ok, last question, is this possible and practical WITHOUT removing the hu=
b?
>>=20
>> Lester
>>=20
>> thanks for all the help so far guys!\\
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>>>=20
>>> Lester,
>>>=20
>>> You will need the seal (gasket) and the rubber o-ring.  It's not difficu=
lt to change.
>>>=20
>>> Parts 24 and 26 on this page;
>>>=20
>>> http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/sm/full.aspx?Page=3D51
>>>=20
>>> Do you have a haynes manual? =20
>>>=20
>>> You will need to pull the axle, but that's easy too ;)
>>>=20
>>> Jack up the car higher on the side you are working on.  That will keep t=
he diff lube from leaking out when you remove the axle.
>>>=20
>>> Kevin V.
>>> Tuscarora, Pa
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Lester via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>>>> Well shit.
>>>>=20
>>>> There was a smear of crud around the outside of the hub, smell of diff f=
luid.  So what does it take to replace the axle seal?
>>>>=20
>>>> Lester
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> > On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>>>> >=20
>>>> > Has the fluid level in the brake master gone down?  With regular brak=
e fluid I can tell by the feel that it's brake fluid.  When I get it on my f=
inger and rub my finger and thumb together it has a "squeaky" feel.  Don't k=
now if that works with silicone as I've never  used the stuff.
>>>> >=20
>>>> > Sent from my keyboard
>>>> >=20
>>>> >> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:30 PM, Lester Ewing via Spridgets <spridgets@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> >>=20
>>>> >>=20
>>>> >> Good Afternoon all,
>>>> >>=20
>>>> >> So there I was cleaning all the gunk off the drum and springs and it=
 hit me, is the fluid I am cleaning off brake fluid (Silicone) or is it diff=
 oil?  It=E2=80=99s rained a bunch here so I can=E2=80=99t smell anything on=
 the ground.  Externally, the signs would be the same right:  Fluid trail do=
wn tire, gunk all inside of drum and all over shoes.  I didn=E2=80=99t get t=
hat sulphur smell but I may have put synthetic oil in the diff a decade ago o=
r so when I cleaned things up.  I do not recall changing the seals .
>>>> >>=20
>>>> >> Last data point, the car has been sitting for about 2 years while I t=
ry to make it =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=80=9D.
>>>> >>=20
>>>> >> All thoughts and input accepted.
>>>> >>=20
>>>> >> Lester
>>>> >>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>If you just want to replace the o-ring=
 and gasket under the axle flange you do not have to remove the hub. &nbsp;I=
f you want to replace the seal that rides on the axle housing then yes, you h=
ave to pull the hub.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Sent from m=
y keyboard</div><div><br>On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:58 PM, Ron Soave via Spridget=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D=
"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">No hub removal. Should=
 take all of 25 minutes to do.&nbsp;<div><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">=
Ron Soave</div><div><br>On Sep 23, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Lester via Spridgets &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Co=
ntent-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dutf-8">Ok, last question, is this=
 possible and practical WITHOUT removing the hub?<div class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div class=3D"">Lester</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><d=
iv class=3D"">thanks for all the help so far guys!\\<br class=3D""><div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Sep 23, 2018, at 1:39 PM=
, Kevin Valentine &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevinv1275@gmail.com"; class=3D"">kev=
inv1275@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline=
"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-siz=
e: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;=
 letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;=
 text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;=
 -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Les=
ter,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">You will need the s=
eal (gasket) and the rubber o-ring.&nbsp; It's not difficult to change.</div=
><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Parts 24 and 26 on thi=
s page;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a href=3D=
"http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/sm/full.aspx?Page=3D51"; class=3D"">=
http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/sm/full.aspx?Page=3D51</a><br class=3D=
""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Do you have a haynes=
 manual?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
"">You will need to pull the axle, but that's easy too ;)</div><div class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Jack up the car higher on the side y=
ou are working on.&nbsp; That will keep the diff lube from leaking out when y=
ou remove the axle.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"=
">Kevin V.</div><div class=3D"">Tuscarora, Pa</div><div class=3D""><br class=
=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></div></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-sty=
le: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: n=
ormal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: n=
one; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stro=
ke-width: 0px;"><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 23, 20=
18 at 10:04 AM, Lester via Spridgets<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&n=
bsp;</span><span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</s=
pan><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br class=3D"">=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border=
-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: s=
olid; padding-left: 1ex;">Well shit.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">There was a=
 smear of crud around the outside of the hub, smell of diff fluid.&nbsp; So w=
hat does it take to replace the axle seal?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Lest=
er<br class=3D""><span class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">&gt; On Sep 2=
2, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets=
@autox.team.net" class=3D"">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=
=3D"">&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">=
&gt; Has the fluid level in the brake master gone down?&nbsp; With regular b=
rake fluid I can tell by the feel that it's brake fluid.&nbsp; When I get it=
 on my finger and rub my finger and thumb together it has a "squeaky" feel.&=
nbsp; Don't know if that works with silicone as I've never&nbsp; used the st=
uff.<br class=3D"">&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b=
r class=3D"">&gt; Sent from my keyboard<br class=3D"">&gt;<span class=3D"App=
le-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">&gt;&gt; On Sep 22, 2018, at=
 7:30 PM, Lester Ewing via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.t=
eam.net" class=3D"">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"">&g=
t;&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">&gt;=
&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">&gt;&g=
t; Good Afternoon all,<br class=3D"">&gt;&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-=
space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">&gt;&gt; So there I was cleaning all the g=
unk off the drum and springs and it hit me, is the fluid I am cleaning off b=
rake fluid (Silicone) or is it diff oil?&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s rained a bunch h=
ere so I can=E2=80=99t smell anything on the ground.&nbsp; Externally, the s=
igns would be the same right:&nbsp; Fluid trail down tire, gunk all inside o=
f drum and all over shoes.&nbsp; I didn=E2=80=99t get that sulphur smell but=
 I may have put synthetic oil in the diff a decade ago or so when I cleaned t=
hings up.&nbsp; I do not recall changing the seals .<br class=3D"">&gt;&gt;<=
span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">&gt;&gt; La=
st data point, the car has been sitting for about 2 years while I try to mak=
e it =E2=80=9Cbetter=E2=80=9D.<br class=3D"">&gt;&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">&gt;&gt; All thoughts and input a=
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