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Re: [Spridgets] Frogeye Rubber Carpets

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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frogeye Rubber Carpets
From: Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 14:09:35 -0700
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Unless you are going for a Gold Concours car why would you want them?  =
The originals were terrible.


Bob  Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2013 Miata
2017 Mazda CX9

Pay it forward.
Thanks Frank

> On Nov 26, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets =
<spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Here is the lengthy response I got from AH Spares with pictures of the =
prototypes of the ribbed rubber carpets.  I guess they are still =
tweaking them for more originality at the moment.
> Mike MacLean
>=20
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: Keith Bates <keith@ah4h.co.uk>
> To: rrengineer.mike@att.net <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> Cc: sales@ah4h.co.uk <sales@ah4h.co.uk>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018, 6:51:17 AM PST
> Subject: Frogeye Rubber Carpets
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> Dear Mr Maclean,
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> =20
> Many thanks for your email and for contacting our company. It=E2=80=99s =
great news that word is getting around about our plans to reproduce =
these rubber mats for the early Sprites. It=E2=80=99s been a personal =
mission for more than 25 years now and as I=E2=80=99m at the final =
stages of a 3 year Mk1 restoration I was determined that this car =
wouldn=E2=80=99t have carpets fitted at any cost. Things evolved further =
when I managed to find a UK source for ribbed red rubber. The ribs are =
slightly finer than the original and the red is more terracotta but in =
many ways it does look like the colour of a 60 year old slightly faded =
original mat rather than shiny new ones . It=E2=80=99s still in very =
early stages of development but I=E2=80=99d like to think that we will =
have something to offer within the next 6 weeks. I have attached =
pictures of the mats fitted to my own car on which we developed them, =
plus some of the display that we had on our stand at a Sprite 60th show =
in England this year. As you can see the plain rubber areas are made of =
a matching vinyl and stitched to the rubber which works well. The floor =
mats have been cut in 2 sections and again with the plain area made of =
matching vinyl but not stitched together. We tried this but the fit was =
poor so it was decided that trimming the cross member and chassis =
section in loose vinyl would give a better result and then to lay the =
cut ribbed rubber pieces over the top. In time we want to look at =
removing sections of the ribbing to detail the heel mat, the borders and =
possibly even the circular inscription on the left side of the tunnel =
with the words =E2=80=98Lift Mat To Fill=E2=80=99.  Also another area =
that we need to investigate into further is the direction of the ribbing =
on the tunnel sides. I have now seen this in both vertical and =
horizontal on so called original sets. It maybe that we will need to =
offer both unless we can determine which is most accurate but both ways =
is possible.
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> =20
> With the help of a recognised English Sprite expert and the loan of =
the patterns he had made many years ago for his own hand made mats, we =
were able to accurately recreate a good fitting tunnel cover. I must be =
clear that these mats are not pre-moulded as the originals but are more =
an acceptable attempt at something close to the appearance and that can =
be produced and sold for a reasonable price. At the moment it=E2=80=99s =
too early to give you an accurate price as we don=E2=80=99t yet have all =
costs  but are hoping to keep the price around the =C2=A3300 mark for =
the set including the door liners. Also we would only be able to supply =
in red and black but are hopeful of blue and green in the future. This =
may depend on sales as the supplier of the red require a minimum 100 =
meter order to produce in other colours. We are prepared to invest in =
this if sales look remotely possible.  We will certainly be making some =
notable publicity when the kits are ready to sell and I will of course =
contact you directly to advise.  =20
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> =20
> If you need to know more, then please feel free to contact me or call =
to discuss.
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> =20
> Best regards,
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> Keith.
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>  <http://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/>
>  <https://facebook.com/ahead4healeys> =
<https://www.twitter.com/ahead4healeys/>=09
> =09
> Keith Bates / Sales
> A-Head 4 Healeys Ltd.
> Office: +44 (0)1788 565 000 / Fax: +44 (0)1788 565 001
> 81 Somers Road, Rugby, Warwickshire, CV22 7DG
> www.ah4h.co.uk <http://www.ah4h.co.uk/>
>  <http://www.ah4h.co.uk/>
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> On your web site you mention ribbed rubber carpets for the Frogeye.  I =
could not find them listed in the catalog.  Any information on when they =
will be available and what price?
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> Mike MacLean
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> San Bernardino, California
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Unless you are going for a Gold Concours car why would you =
want them? &nbsp;The originals were terrible.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D"">Bob &nbsp;Kitterer<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in&nbsp;disguise)<br =
class=3D"">1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)&nbsp;- still in =
boxes<br class=3D"">2013 Miata</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">2017 Mazda CX9<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Pay it =
forward.<br class=3D"">Thanks Frank</div>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Nov 26, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"ydpcb9d09a6yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: times new =
roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D""></div>
        <div class=3D"">Here is the lengthy response I got from AH =
Spares with pictures of the prototypes of the ribbed rubber =
carpets.&nbsp; I guess they are still tweaking them for more originality =
at the moment.</div><div class=3D"">Mike MacLean<br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp66606cf1yahoo_quoted_3677543875" =
class=3D"ydp66606cf1yahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, =
Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;" class=3D"">
                <div class=3D"">----- Forwarded Message -----</div>
                <div class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b> Keith Bates =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:keith@ah4h.co.uk"; =
class=3D"">keith@ah4h.co.uk</a>&gt;</div><div class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; =
class=3D"">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; =
class=3D"">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt;</div><div class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:sales@ah4h.co.uk"; =
class=3D"">sales@ah4h.co.uk</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sales@ah4h.co.uk"; =
class=3D"">sales@ah4h.co.uk</a>&gt;</div><div class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b> Monday, November 26, 2018, 6:51:17 AM PST</div><div =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b> Frogeye Rubber Carpets</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><div id=3D"ydp66606cf1yiv5183844597" =
class=3D"">

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<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"ydp66606cf1yiv5183844597WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"ydp66606cf1yiv5183844597MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Dear Mr Ma</span><span =
style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;" class=3D"">clean<span style=3D"" =
class=3D"">,</span></span></p><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
sans-serif;" class=3D""> &nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ydp66606cf1yiv5183844597MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Many thanks for your email and for contacting =
our company. It=E2=80=99s great news that word is getting around about =
our plans to reproduce these rubber mats for the early Sprites. It=E2=80=99=
s been
 a personal mission for more than 25 years now and as I=E2=80=99m at the =
final stages of a 3 year Mk1 restoration I was determined that this car =
wouldn=E2=80=99t have carpets fitted at any cost. Things evolved further =
when I managed to find a UK source for ribbed red rubber.
 The ribs are slightly finer than the original and the red is more =
terracotta but in many ways it does look like the colour of a 60 year =
old slightly faded original mat rather than shiny new ones . It=E2=80=99s =
still in very early stages of development but I=E2=80=99d like
 to think that we will have something to offer within the next 6 weeks. =
I have attached pictures of the mats fitted to my own car on which we =
developed them, plus some of the display that we had on our stand at a =
Sprite 60<sup class=3D"">th</sup> show in England this
 year. As you can see the plain rubber areas are made of a matching =
vinyl and stitched to the rubber which works well. The floor mats have =
been cut in 2 sections and again with the plain area made of matching =
vinyl but not stitched together. We tried this but
 the fit was poor so it was decided that trimming the cross member and =
chassis section in loose vinyl would give a better result and then to =
lay the cut ribbed rubber pieces over the top. In time we want to look =
at removing sections of the ribbing to detail
 the heel mat, the borders and possibly even the circular inscription on =
the left side of the tunnel with the words =E2=80=98Lift Mat To Fill=E2=80=
=99. &nbsp;Also another area that we need to investigate into further is =
the direction of the ribbing on the tunnel sides. I have now
 seen this in both vertical and horizontal on so called original sets. =
It maybe that we will need to offer both unless we can determine which =
is most accurate but both ways is possible.</span></p><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" class=3D""> =
&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ydp66606cf1yiv5183844597MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">With the help of a recognised English Sprite =
expert and the loan of the patterns he had made many years ago for his =
own hand made mats, we were able to accurately recreate a good
 fitting tunnel cover. I must be clear that these mats are not =
pre-moulded as the originals but are more an acceptable attempt at =
something close to the appearance and that can be produced and sold for =
a reasonable price. At the moment it=E2=80=99s too early to give
 you an accurate price as we don=E2=80=99t yet have all costs &nbsp;but =
are hoping to keep the price around the =C2=A3300 mark for the set =
including the door liners. Also we would only be able to supply in red =
and black but are hopeful of blue and green in the future. This may
 depend on sales as the supplier of the red require a minimum 100 meter =
order to produce in other colours. We are prepared to invest in this if =
sales look remotely possible. &nbsp;We will certainly be making some =
notable publicity when the kits are ready to sell
 and I will of course contact you directly to =
advise.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" class=3D""> &nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ydp66606cf1yiv5183844597MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">If you need to know more, then please feel free =
to contact me or call to discuss.</span></p><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: sans-serif;" class=3D""> &nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ydp66606cf1yiv5183844597MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Best regards,</span></p><p =
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sans-serif;" class=3D"">Keith.</span></p><div class=3D""><span =
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<b class=3D""><span =
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class=3D"">A-Head 4 Healeys Ltd.</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: =
9pt; font-family: sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">
</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#212121;" =
class=3D"">Office: +44 (0)1788 565 000</span><span style=3D"font-size: =
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