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Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: Go fast engine compression

To: Lester Ewing <oldsaabguy@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: Go fast engine compression help
From: Weslake1330 via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 19:35:29 +0100
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If you don't know what the static compression ratio the engine was built
with is, then I don't see how you can know if any given reading is bad.  If
your engine was built with a CR of 7:1 then a reading of 150 is probably
great.  However, if the engine was built with a CR of 11:1 then a reading
of 150 might be disappointing

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 16:46, Lester Ewing via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Colin,
>
> Thanks, I am NOT trying to calculate compression ratio.  I just want a
> rough number.  Is 6 bad is 200 great?  I am inly trying to get a rough id=
ea
> if the compression number I have is reasonable for the engine I have.
> Between 135 and 150 is what I want to know.
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Colin Dodds <colin@spriteparts.com.au> wrote=
:
>
> Sorry Lester, but Steve=E2=80=99s previous answer was correct =E2=80=93 t=
here are too many
> variables.  How good is the battery, how good is the starter motor, what=
=E2=80=99s
> the tappet gap?  The compression ratio should be calculated by measuring
> bore and head volumes before the engine is assembled.  It=E2=80=99s impos=
sible to
> gauge engine compression from a gauge down the plug hole.  All that=E2=80=
=99s going
> to tell you is that they=E2=80=99re all close to the same, which is a goo=
d thing.
> With your engine specs, I would expect the compression gauge to read
> between 135 and 150.
>
> avagoodday
> Colin
> www.SpriteParts.com.au <http://www.spriteparts.com.au/>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* bugeye@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugeye@yahoogroups.com
> <bugeye@yahoogroups.com>]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 16 June 2020 1:12 AM
> *To:* Weslake1330
> *Cc:* Spridgets; [bugeye]; Yahoo Spridget list
> *Subject:* Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: [Spridgets] Go fast engine
> compression help
>
>
>
> Well let me put it this way, on a new engine with a street cam is 135psi
>  a good number?  Or should it be closer to 150psi?
>
>
> Lester
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Weslake1330 <weslake1330@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In part it will depend on what compression ratio was used in the first
> place - 9 to 1 or 10.5 to 1 or whatever?
>
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 01:16, Lester Ewing via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> hi guys,
>
> With a newly rebuilt 1380 what compression numbers should I expect?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lester
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you don&#39;t know what the static compression ratio th=
e engine was built with is, then I don&#39;t see how you can know if any gi=
ven reading is bad.=C2=A0 If your engine was built with a CR of 7:1 then a =
reading of 150 is probably great.=C2=A0 However, if the engine was built wi=
th a CR of 11:1 then a reading of 150 might be disappointing</div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, 20 Jun =
2020 at 16:46, Lester Ewing via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@a=
utox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-w=
ord;">Colin,<div><br></div><div>Thanks, I am NOT trying to calculate compre=
ssion ratio.=C2=A0 I just want a rough number.=C2=A0 Is 6 bad is 200 great?=
=C2=A0 I am inly trying to get a rough idea if the compression number I hav=
e is reasonable for the engine I have.=C2=A0 Between 135 and 150 is what I =
want to know.</div><div><br></div><div>Lester</div><div><br></div><div><br>=
<div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jun 15, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Colin Dodd=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:colin@spriteparts.com.au"; target=3D"_blank">colin@s=
priteparts.com.au</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div style=3D"font-family:He=
lvetica;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weig=
ht:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-trans=
form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,=
255)"><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman&quot;"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Sorry Lester, but =
Steve=E2=80=99s previous answer was correct =E2=80=93 there are too many va=
riables.=C2=A0 How good is the battery, how good is the starter motor, what=
=E2=80=99s the tappet gap?=C2=A0 The compression ratio should be calculated=
 by measuring bore and head volumes before the engine is assembled.=C2=A0 I=
t=E2=80=99s impossible to gauge engine compression from a gauge down the pl=
ug hole.=C2=A0 All that=E2=80=99s going to tell you is that they=E2=80=99re=
 all close to the same, which is a good thing.=C2=A0 With your engine specs=
, I would expect the compression gauge to read between 135 and 150.<u></u><=
u></u></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:1=
2pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy=
" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.00=
01pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><font size=3D"=
2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial;color:navy">avagoodday<u></u><u></u></span></font></div><div style=3D=
"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&q=
uot;"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Colin<u></u><u></u></span></font></di=
v><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><a href=3D"http://www.=
spriteparts.com.au/" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target=
=3D"_blank">www.SpriteParts.com.au</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></div><di=
v style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></font></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Ar=
ial"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></font></div><div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center=
" style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;;text-align:center"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:12pt"><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%=
" align=3D"center"></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001p=
t;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><b><font size=3D"=
2" face=3D"Tahoma"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size=3D"2" face=3D"T=
ahoma"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma"><sp=
an>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:bugeye@yahoogroups.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>bugeye@yahoogroups.com</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:bugeye@yahoogroups.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">mailto:bugeye@yahoogroups.com</a>]<span>=C2=A0</span><br><b><=
span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span>=C2=A0</span>Tuesday,=
 16 June 2020 1:12 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>=
<span>=C2=A0</span>Weslake1330<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc:</=
span></b><span>=C2=A0</span>Spridgets; [bugeye]; Yahoo Spridget list<br><b>=
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span>=C2=A0</span>Buge=
ye/Frogeye Club..... Re: [Spridgets] Go fast engine compression help</span>=
</font><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style=3D"=
margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0=
001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><font size=3D=
"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">=C2=A0<span>=C2=
=A0</span><u></u><u></u></span></font></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_493928067572=
4258280ygrp-mlmsg"><div id=3D"gmail-m_4939280675724258280ygrp-msg" style=3D=
"line-height:1.22em"><div id=3D"gmail-m_4939280675724258280ygrp-text" style=
=3D"line-height:1.22em"><p style=3D"margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-s=
ize:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font =
size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><span styl=
e=3D"line-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt">Well let me put it this way, on a n=
ew engine with a street cam is 135psi =C2=A0a good number?=C2=A0 Or should =
it be closer to 150psi?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><div style=3D"line-h=
eight:1.22em"><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><span style=3D"line-heigh=
t:1.22em;font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></div><div style=
=3D"line-height:1.22em"><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12p=
t;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font size=3D=
"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><span style=3D"li=
ne-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></div></=
div><div style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt=
;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;line-height:1.22em"=
><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><sp=
an style=3D"line-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt">Lester<u></u><u></u></span><=
/font></div></div><div style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><div style=3D"margin:0c=
m 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;line-=
height:1.22em"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"line-heig=
ht:1.22em"><span style=3D"line-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></font></div></div><div style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><div styl=
e=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Rom=
an&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" styl=
e=3D"line-height:1.22em"><span style=3D"line-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></div><div style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><=
div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><span style=3D"line-height:1.22em;font-siz=
e:12pt"><br style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><br style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><=
u></u><u></u></span></font></div><div style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><div sty=
le=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" sty=
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>On Jun 15, 2020, at 2:53 AM, Weslake1330 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:weslake1330=
@gmail.com" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;line-height:1.22e=
m" target=3D"_blank">weslake1330@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></font></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;=
font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font size=3D"3=
" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><span style=3D"line=
-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></div><div=
 style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><div style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><div style=
=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=
=3D"line-height:1.22em"><span style=3D"line-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt">I=
n part it will depend on what compression ratio was used in the=C2=A0first =
place - 9 to 1 or 10.5 to 1 or whatever?<u></u><u></u></span></font></div><=
/div><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot=
;Times New Roman&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times N=
ew Roman" style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><span style=3D"line-height:1.22em;fo=
nt-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></font></div><div style=3D"line-he=
ight:1.22em"><div style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><div style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm=
 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;line-heigh=
t:1.22em"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"line-height:1.=
22em"><span style=3D"line-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt">On Mon, 15 Jun 2020=
 at 01:16, Lester Ewing via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox=
.team.net" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;line-height:1.22em=
" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></=
span></font></div></div><blockquote style=3D"line-height:1.22em;border-styl=
e:none none none solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width=
:1pt;padding:0cm;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm" type=3D"cite"><div sty=
le=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;;line-height:1.22em"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" sty=
le=3D"line-height:1.22em"><span style=3D"line-height:1.22em;font-size:12pt"=
><br style=3D"line-height:1.22em">hi guys,<br style=3D"line-height:1.22em">=
<br style=3D"line-height:1.22em">With a newly rebuilt 1380 what compression=
 numbers should I expect?<br style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><br style=3D"line=
-height:1.22em">Thanks,<br style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><br style=3D"line-h=
eight:1.22em">Lester<br style=3D"line-height:1.22em"><br style=3D"line-heig=
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