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Re: [Tigers] Bizarre Running Issue

To: <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Bizarre Running Issue
From: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 05:34:35 -0700
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
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You mention one thing that I noticed while I was working on the carb, and I
meant to go back and address.  The vacuum advance hose is fine at the carb
end.  But at the distributor end, the attachment part points pretty much right
at one of the radiator hoses, and the vacuum hose was being bent at that
point.  It didn't seem like it was fully pinched or that it had a hole in it.

I was going too see if I could find some sort of hard 90 degree elbow that I
could put on right there.  I thought of it during my 2 hour drive.  But I
didn't think it could be the cause of this.

Jay


On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:

> Jay
>       That does seem bizarre.  I'll have to ponder on that one for awhile.
> You maybe on the right track with the float it does seem like fuel problem
>
> I do suggest you check the timing and the timing advance curve, also make
> sure the vacuum advance canister will hold vacuum.  Make sure the initial
> timing is always returning to the same point.  Make sure all the wire
> connections to and from the distributor are good.   I worked on one car
that
> had all kinds of bizarre problems until I found the distributor advance was
> hanging up and messing up the initial timing every time the throttle was
> touched.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Jay Laifman
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:52 AM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net Den
> Subject: [Tigers] Bizarre Running Issue
>
>
> Ok, this one doesn't strike a chord with me from hearing similar stuff
> before.
>
> As before, I recently rebuilt the Holley.  I had an issue with no running
> below 2,000 rpm.  I raised the front float level, adjusted the idle screws
> and the idle and all was good.  I went on a number of drives and it seemed
> fine.
>
> But today, when driving to work, it still ran fine, until about 45 minutes
> into the drive - long after the temp gauge was already reading normal
> operating temp.  Then it would die when I came to idle.
>
> I looked on line and it suggested a vacuum leak or the float was too high.
> But no vacuum line is remotely loose and I would think this would show its
> head earlier in the drive.
>
> Then on the way home, I hit terrible terrible traffic.  It was mostly idle
> for a long time, then inch forward.  But, still the car was fine.  It held
> temp just fine, and idle.  Then some time about 45-60 minutes into this 2
> hour drive, it started stalling again if I went down to idle.  And now the
> engine ran a bit rough below 2,000 rpm.  Not bad like before I adjusted the
> float. But not good either.
>
> At every stop, even the last stop before my house, it would stall unless I
> was able to catch it and lightly rev the engine to keep it going.  Note
that
> it would stall EVEN IF I didn't hit the brakes or slow down.  It was not
> servo/braking/change of angle/fuel sloshing related.  I could be driving
> along and press in the clutch, lift my foot off the gas, and it would drop
> to 0 rpm and stall.
>
> Then I got home, pulled up to the house, and fully expected it to stall
> again. Now it didn't stall and it seemed to be smooth again.
>
> My thought was that there is something wrong with that front float.  Like
> perhaps something causes it to expand and it is sticking, or some other
> bizarre thing.  But that doesn't fully explain the behavior.  Because the
> front float didn't match the rear one, and it is adjusting oddly (because
it
> has to be lifted quite a bit off of horizontal to run right), I think I'm
> going to order the newer float and install it and see what happens.
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