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Thanks for the responses.
The rootes manual only shows a diagram for the cable tension soft top. =C2=
=A0What do I need to look for in a Velcro verses cable tension top frame?
Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal =
plates. =C2=A0The webbing is how long and how wide? =C2=A0Ron indicates, I =
interrupt, attaches to the header (1), middle bow (2) and then the rear bow=
(3) if I am reading this correctly. =C2=A0Metal plates are a mystery at th=
is point - not sure if I have these or not.
So if the Velcro frame, does the Velcro attach to the 'cantrail' RH and LH =
which is about 24" long for securing to the top which has Velcro already se=
wn into it?
Thanks again
Joel Martin=20
On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:16 AM, Ross Hulse <commodoreblues@gma=
il.com> wrote:
=20
Joel,
Check youtube=C2=A0for Sunbeam Top Stowage.=C2=A0 It shows how to fold the =
top on a Mark 1A.=C2=A0 And it also shows how to properly attach the top ma=
terial to the body.=C2=A0 Watch the video and you will notice how the cente=
r webbing is attached to the frame.99980 0=C2=A0If you have cables on a Mar=
k 1A top frame you actually have an early Mark 1 frame and that is not corr=
ect. =C2=A0
Ross "Commodore Blues" Hulse
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Tom Parker via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
Ron's right, I think. The Mark 1A probably used Velcro on the sides. Look f=
or rivet holes in the frame outer sides.My Mark 2 definitely does.
Tom'67 Mark 2
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.=
net> wrote:
Joel=C2=A0Most Rootes parts are over engineered for strength and longevity.=
=C2=A0There are 2 tensions cables.Are you sure you need them for a Mk 1A fr=
ame.=C2=A0 My early Mk 1A uses Velcro along the side rails=C2=A0instead of =
the cables.=C2=A0You need the Alpine Parts List to show those parts.=C2=A0 =
See TigersUnited.com and look for the Tiger and Alpine=C2=A0Parts List ther=
e.=C2=A0Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows wit=
h metal plates.=C2=A0My cover plates are Machine Gray.=C2=A0Write ups - TE/=
AE web site should have one but not sure.There was a video on the web for f=
olding the top correctly - not sure if it is still there or if I can find i=
t again=C2=A0Ron Fraser=C2=A0=C2=A0
-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Marti=
n via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:38 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top
Well, we started on the soft top frame for the 66 Mk 1A.=C2=A0 Would you =
say this is a over engineered, complicated set up?=C2=A0=20
The tension cable and retainer spring, which I have neither, where does th=
e retaining spring attach to?=C2=A0 The from collar, I believe attached to =
the Peak rail.=C2=A0 Are there 2 tension cable, one on either side?=20
The peak rail or header rail looks to have a notch in the center with seve=
ral holes to hold something here - what?=C2=A0 The Rootes manual section O =
body does not show anything.=20
The cover plate, RH and LH, - are they suppose to be machinery grey painte=
d like the frame or chrome as received from SS?=20
Are there any good write ups with pictures on soft top frame and top insta=
llation?=C2=A0 I have not been able to find anything.=20
Pictures on the entire top set up would be greatly appreciated.=C2=A0 My l=
ittle 3 stop light town does not even know what a Sunbeam is other than a b=
lender, so going to look is not possible.=20
Regards=20
Joel Martin
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ga=
ramond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440=
078089272_5497"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_8525">Thanks for the=
responses.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"><span><=
br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"><span id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_9971">The rootes manual only shows a diagram for th=
e cable tension soft top. What do I need to look for in a Velcro vers=
es cable tension top frame?</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14400780892=
72_5497"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497"=
dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: Arial; font=
-size: small;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_8570" class=3D"">Notch is f=
or webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal plates. &n=
bsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" class=3D""=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_13137">The webbing is how long and how wi=
de? Ron indicates, I interrupt, attaches to the header (1), middle bo=
w (2) and then the rear bow (3) if I am reading this correctly. Metal=
plates are a mystery at this point - not sure if I have these or not.</spa=
n><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497" dir=3D=
"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" class=3D""><br>=
</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497" dir=3D"ltr"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1440078089272_15044">So if the Velcro frame, does the Velcro attach to t=
he 'cantrail' RH and LH which is about 24" long for securing to the top whi=
ch has Velcro already sewn into it?</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
0078089272_5497" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: =
small;" class=3D""><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5=
497" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: small;" clas=
s=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_15687">Thanks again</span></div><di=
v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Arial; font-size: small;" class=3D""><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1440078089272_5497" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial;=
font-size: small;" class=3D"">Joel Martin</span></div> <br><div class=3D"=
qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"display: =
block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-=
size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Hel=
vetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"lt=
r"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:16 AM=
, Ross Hulse <commodoreblues@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <b=
r><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv9995961879"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div>Joel,</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>Check youtube =
;for Sunbeam Top Stowage. It shows how to fold the top on a Mark 1A.&=
nbsp; And it also shows how to properly attach the top material to the body=
. Watch the video and you will notice how the center webbing is attac=
hed to the frame.99980 0<div> <div>If you have cables on a Mark 1A top=
frame you actually have an early Mark 1 frame and that is not correct. &nb=
sp;</div><div class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><di=
v class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Ross "Commodore Blues" Hulse</div></div></div></div></div>
<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 19, =
2015 at 7:47 AM, Tom Parker via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>></s=
pan> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Ron's right, I think. The Mark 1A probably used Velcro on =
the sides. Look for rivet holes in the frame outer sides.My Mark 2 definite=
ly does.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Tom</div><div>'67 Mark 2</div></=
div><div class=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=
=3D"yiv9995961879gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"yiv9995961879h5">On Wed, A=
ug 19, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a=
>></span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv9=
995961879gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class=3D"yiv9995961879h5"><u></u>
<div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Joel</span></f=
ont></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Most=20
Rootes parts are over engineered for strength and longevity.</span></font><=
/div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>There=20
are 2 tensions cables.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Are=20
you sure you need them for a Mk 1A frame. My early Mk 1A uses Velcro =
along=20
the side rails instead of the cables.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>You=20
need the Alpine Parts List to show those parts. See TigersUnited.com =
and=20
look for the Tiger and Alpine Parts List there.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Notch=20
is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal=20
plates.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>My=20
cover plates are Machine Gray.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Write=20
ups - TE/AE web site should have one but not sure.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>There=20
was a video on the web for folding the top correctly - not sure if it is st=
ill=20
there or if I can find it again</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span>Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span></span></font>=
</div>
<blockquote dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT:0px;">
<div></div>
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ahoma">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none"><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
[mailto:<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.te=
am.net">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin =
via=20
Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:38 AM<=
br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b>=20
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.tea=
m.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft=
=20
Top<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times=
, serif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:16px;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Well, we started on the soft=20
top frame for the 66 Mk 1A. Would you say this is a over engineered=
,=20
complicated set up? </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The tension cable and=20
retainer spring, which I have neither, where does the retaining spring at=
tach=20
to? The from collar, I believe attached to the Peak rail. Are=
=20
there 2 tension cable, one on either side?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The peak rail or header rail=20
looks to have a notch in the center with several holes to hold something =
here=20
- what? The Rootes manual section O body does not show anything.</d=
iv>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The cover plate, RH and LH, -=20
are they suppose to be machinery grey painted like the frame or chrome as=
=20
received from SS?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Are there any good write ups=20
with pictures on soft top frame and top installation? I have not be=
en=20
able to find anything.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Pictures on the entire top=20
set up would be greatly appreciated. My little 3 stop light town do=
es=20
not even know what a Sunbeam is other than a blender, so going to look is=
not=20
possible.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Regards</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Joel=20
Martin</div></div></blockquote></div>
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