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Joel,
How about a report on the type of 3 point that you used......brand name,
model #, retractable or non-retractable, does the center belt have a
stiffener that sticks up or do will you have to hunt for the belt each time,
etc...... Anyone else have info on what works well in a Tiger?
Mark
In a message dated 9/18/2015 2:41:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tigers@autox.team.net writes:
Thanks to all who responded. 3 point belts are almost complete. The
wheel well nuts never had anything in them, the car only had lap belts before,
so re-tapping was required - rear wheel well sides done. I am going to get
a few (4) small spacers for the behind the seat attachment points so it
does not bunch up the carpet at this location.
The belts came with 2 spacers for the wheel well location in order to get
through the vinyl and padding with a small hole punched\cut at this
location to ensure not messing up the vinyl. Looks pretty good.
Progress is slow but am getting all the little things completed while
waiting for the chrome door finishers to come back in order to complete the
doors as well as getting the top frame complete with center strap attached.
We ended up with a 2 piece installation here. One from the middle bow to
back bow and a long piece from the header to the rear bow. We are not
attaching the header portion until the top is installed to ensure a taught
fit.
Seats should be back from upholster some time in the next 2 weeks and then
interior would be complete.
Thanks again for the responses, it was a little nerve racking early this
week, not thinking there was no frame belt mounting points. MGB inside
captive nuts - Sunbeam outside interior compartment captive nuts - who knew -
whew!
Regards
Joel Martin
On Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:00 PM, "CoolVT@aol.com" <CoolVT@aol.com>
wrote:
Stu, if you hit something hard enough to flip the passenger seat forward I
think you're going to have more to worry about than a seat ;-)
In a message dated 9/17/2015 1:31:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tigers@autox.team.net writes:
In my Tiger, assembled in the late summer of '66, there were mounts for
lap belts under the rugs, and for the shoulder belt on the wheel arch in the
rear. They are threaded to take the standard seat belt bolt, whatever that
is, because a couple sets I've obtained from other cars, including a
Mercedes, fit right in.
I'm on the short side, and didn't like the angle of the lap belt when
using the standard mounts, so I added a second set of mounts further forward,
just by drilling holes in the floor and using those giant washers intended
for seat belt mounting
If you are in the seat and have your belts on, the seat should be unable
to tip forward. The empty passenger seat is another issue...
Stu
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers
<_tigers@autox.team.net_ (mailto:tigers@autox.team.net) > wrote:
I must confess, when doing metal and body work, I did not think ahead
regarding seat belt mounting locations. I know with 1968 and newer cars you
are required to wear a seat belt but I am sure I want them on any car I drive.
So, what do people do regarding adding seat belts 'after' welding is out
of the question with new paint completed and carpet installed? My MGB has
welded in captive nuts for belts and shoulder strap mounting points and I
guess I was thinking the Tiger MK 1A had them as well - bad mistake. Options
now?
My other concern is with the seat slider where the seats 'raise/tip'
forward with no way to hold back of seat frame from tipping forward in case of
front end accident. How have folks addressed this issue or is it a none
issue?
Regards
Joel Martin
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