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To: "Robert Hogan" <robertdhogan@gmail.com>, <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] No, not a dipstick comment, new subject - Tiger Street Tires
From: Dave via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 16:40:27 -0300
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Rob;

Here in Nova Scotia we have three Michelin plants that crank out a lot =
of car and truck tires for the Canadian and U.S. market. One of the =
plants made a variety of 15=E2=80=9D tires, and it was closed last year =
due to the shrinking market for this size tire, costing hundreds of =
jobs. So that seems to be the trend, if not the complete end of =
15=E2=80=9D tires.

However, for your reasons, I switched to 15/5.5=E2=80=9D wheels on the =
front and 15x6=E2=80=9D wheels on the rear. For tires I have on the =
front 185-55 R15=E2=80=99s and on the rear 205-55 R15=E2=80=99s.  These =
fit easily into both wheel wells without having to modify the fender =
lips.
These tire/wheel combinations dramatically alter the way the car =
handles. With Goodyear Eagles on 13=E2=80=9D wheels the car was very =
loose and easy to control rear wheel drifts with the throttle; not so =
with the 15=E2=80=9D low profile radials. They require a whole lot more =
throttle and higher road speeds to get that level of throttle control.=20
A larger consideration is the much stiffer ride. The original tube type =
high side-wall tires contributed to a much more confortable ride, and a =
lot fewer rattles and squeaks! The low profiles which must be run at =
higher pressures stiffen the ride and transfer rough road surfaces =
directly to your butt and promotes rattles you never heard before to =
appear.
Unless you are going autocrossing, racing, and/or mostly riding solo w/o =
a significant other, I would try to stay with the original wheels and =
tires until they become impossible to purchase. They make for a much =
nicer, quieter, smoother, albeit less capable cornering, car.
FWIW,
Dave
From: Robert Hogan via Tigers=20
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:26 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net=20
Subject: [Tigers] No, not a dipstick comment,new subject - Tiger Street =
Tires

The unavailability of any wide and low profile 13=E2=80=9D street tires =
compels searching for 15 & 16=E2=80=9D tire and wheel combinations. =20

The tire calculator at http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.do =
compares existing to preferred tire sizes.

Was the original 5.90 x 13 Tiger tire size an 80 or greater profile?  =
The 1972 Workshop manual isn=E2=80=99t that specific except to specify a =
11.5=E2=80=9D rolling radius.

The calculator shows a 5.90 (150 mm) when input as a 155-80 R13 at =
22.76=E2=80=9D overall diameter, 71.51=E2=80=9D circumference and doing =
886 revs per mile which suggests using a 225-45 R15 as a very closely =
comparative replacement.

Does anyone have information on whether 15 inch tires will become as =
hard to find as wider than 185 sections for 13=E2=80=9D tires are now?

Are 16=E2=80=9D or larger diameter wheels and tires a better alternative =
or widely in use on others=E2=80=99 Tigers?

=20

=20

Rob

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<DIV>Rob;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Here in Nova Scotia we have three Michelin plants that crank out a =
lot of=20
car and truck tires for the Canadian and U.S. market. One of the plants =
made a=20
variety of 15=E2=80=9D tires, and it was closed last year due to the =
shrinking market=20
for this size tire, costing hundreds of jobs. So that seems to be the =
trend, if=20
not the complete end of 15=E2=80=9D tires.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>However, for your reasons, I switched to 15/5.5=E2=80=9D wheels on =
the front and=20
15x6=E2=80=9D wheels on the rear. For tires I have on the front 185-55 =
R15=E2=80=99s and on the=20
rear 205-55 R15=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; These fit easily into both wheel wells =
without having=20
to modify the fender lips.</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>These=20
tire/wheel combinations dramatically alter the way the car handles. With =

Goodyear Eagles on 13=E2=80=9D wheels the car was very loose and easy to =
control rear=20
wheel drifts with the throttle; not so with the 15=E2=80=9D low profile =
radials. They=20
require a whole lot more throttle and higher road speeds to get that =
level of=20
throttle control. </DIV></DIV>
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larger consideration is the much stiffer ride. The original tube type =
high=20
side-wall tires contributed to a much more confortable ride, and a lot =
fewer=20
rattles and squeaks! The low profiles which must be run at higher =
pressures=20
stiffen the ride and transfer rough road surfaces directly to your butt =
and=20
promotes rattles you never heard before to appear.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>Unless=20
you are going autocrossing, racing, and/or mostly riding solo w/o a =
significant=20
other, I would try to stay with the original wheels and tires until they =
become=20
impossible to purchase. They make for a much nicer, quieter, smoother, =
albeit=20
less capable cornering, car.</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dtigers@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>Robert Hogan via Tigers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:26 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dtigers@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] No, not a dipstick comment,new subject - =
Tiger=20
Street Tires</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>The unavailability of any wide and low profile =
13=E2=80=9D street=20
tires compels searching for 15 &amp; 16=E2=80=9D tire and wheel =
combinations.&nbsp;=20
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>The tire calculator at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.do";>http://www.disc=
ounttire.com/dtcs/infoTireMath.do</A>=20
compares existing to preferred tire sizes.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Was the original 5.90 x 13 Tiger tire size an 80 or =
greater=20
profile?&nbsp; The 1972 Workshop manual isn=E2=80=99t that specific =
except to specify a=20
11.5=E2=80=9D rolling radius.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>The calculator shows a 5.90 (150 mm) when input as =
a 155-80=20
R13 at 22.76=E2=80=9D overall diameter, 71.51=E2=80=9D circumference and =
doing 886 revs per mile=20
which suggests using a 225-45 R15 as a very closely comparative=20
replacement.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Does anyone have information on whether 15 inch =
tires will=20
become as hard to find as wider than 185 sections for 13=E2=80=9D tires =
are=20
now?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Are 16=E2=80=9D or larger diameter wheels and tires =
a better=20
alternative or widely in use on others=E2=80=99 Tigers?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Rob<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>B382001560 restoration in =
process<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P>
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