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Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390

To: Joel Martin <jmartiniii@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 19:55:18 +0000 (UTC)
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Thread-topic: Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390
It sounds like you have a non-standard setup, Joel..
You should have a spacer on the clutch master, and there shouldn't be
any interference with the brake master (its plastic resorvoir is bolted
on and could be rotated IIRC).

I have often thought about modifying the stock setup myself, there is
alot of wasted space behind the pedals that would be great for more
leg room.

Gary

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From: Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
To: tigers@autox.team.net, rfraser@bluefrog.com
Sent: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 15:35:29 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 390

Ron
These casting numbers do not match my pedals at all - casting number of 1990300 
verses 1224677 - LHD1229806 for RHD.  Any ideas what 1990300 was suppose to 
fit?  Can you send me a photo of your pedals and the guesstimate of the space 
behind them to the firewall?  Anyone else have a opinion?
ThanksJoel Martin
 


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Today's Topics:

  1. Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
      (Joel Martin)
  2. Re: Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
      ( Ron Fraser)
  3. Re: Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space
      (Tom Parker)
Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes right 
up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.  Concern is the amount of 
room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to shift lever and 
the foot pedals.  With the clutch pushed in there is still about 8" left to 
the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the accelerator pedals to the 
firewall.
Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the pedals to 
the firewall?  The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are about even in the 
foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the other 2.

Findings:  Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting number of 
1990300 but with different bends entirely.  This seams unusual.  The Clutch 
bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal bracket.  
The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available connecting to the 
pedal bracket.  Both brackets look to be the same.

Spacers at the master cylinders:  brake master has spacer between master and 
firewall.  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir slightly 
to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the clutch master 
reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not bolt up..
I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right 
pedals, brackets etc for this car.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
RegardsJoel Martin



 MessageJoel Since these cars are both left & right hand drive capable; both 
side foot wells are similar and nearly symmetrical. There is only 1 part # 
for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 - LHD1229806 for RHD They should have 
1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for the clutch or brake push rod. It is 
very common in manufacturing of pedals to have 1 part, the forged base part 
which is then struck again to make different pedals. I found the foot well 
space behind the pedals to be very handy when driving long distance in cruise 
control - room to stretch my legs. Ron Fraser  
  -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin 
via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space

  Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes 
right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.  Concern is the 
amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to shift 
lever and the foot pedals.  With the clutch pushed in there is still about 8" 
left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the accelerator pedals 
to the firewall. 
 Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the pedals 
to the firewall?  The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are about even in 
the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the other 2.
 
 Findings:  Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting number of 
1990300 but with different bends entirely.  This seams unusual.  The Clutch 
bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal bracket.  
The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available connecting to the 
pedal bracket.  Both brackets look to be the same.
 
 Spacers at the master cylinders:  brake master has spacer between master and 
firewall.  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir slightly 
to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the clutch master 
reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not bolt up.. 
 I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right 
pedals, brackets etc for this car. 
 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. 
 Regards Joel Martin
 
 
 

Joel,
There doesn't seem to be much adjustment available for pedal height except the 
two holes on the foot pedal, which gains / costs you @ 1 1/2" of height 
according to Section K of the Tiger Workshop Manual. If the goal is to have all 
3 pedals' height the same that's the base line... whichever hole you choose, 
and adjust the throttle pedal height to match the brake and clutch height. I 
don't think the original brake and clutch rods were adjustable... at least the 
diagram doesn't show it... but later / aftermarket cylinder pushrods may have 
an adjustment there. 
You're right, imo, the travel is far more than needed for full clutch / brake 
engagement, But with the Tiger tunnel mods it gets a bit tight the closer to 
the firewall the pedals get. I'm a little guy; the folks with big feet will 
have issues the lower the pedals. As it is it's easy to hit the brake and 
throttle at the same time until one gets used to the car. 
Anything can be accomplished with a drill press, but stock height, sadly, 
appears to be fixed.
Tom'67 Mark 2
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> 
wrote:

Joel Since these cars are both left & right hand drive capable; both 
side foot wells are similar and nearly symmetrical. There is only 1 part # 
for the clutch and brake pedal - 1224677 - LHD1229806 for RHD They should have 
1 hole for the pivot point and 2 holes for the clutch or brake push rod. It is 
very common in manufacturing of pedals to have 1 part, the forged base part 
which is then struck again to make different pedals. I found the foot well 
space behind the pedals to be very handy when driving long distance in cruise 
control - room to stretch my legs. Ron Fraser  
  -----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin 
via Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 7:37 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Concern\Question - Front Drivers Seat Foot well space

  Installed drivers seat today, and moved seat all the way to rear - comes 
right up to rear shelf on slider - good. I am 6'0" tall.  Concern is the 
amount of room between knees, stock steering wheel (15.3"), right knee to shift 
lever and the foot pedals.  With the clutch pushed in there is still about 8" 
left to the firewall with about 11" from brake pedal and the accelerator pedals 
to the firewall. 
 Do we really have this much wasted foot well room from the end of the pedals 
to the firewall?  The brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are about even in 
the foot well with the clutch about 1" further 'out' than the other 2.
 
 Findings:  Both the brake and clutch pedal have the same casting number of 
1990300 but with different bends entirely.  This seams unusual.  The Clutch 
bends to the left with only 1 available hole connecting to the pedal bracket.  
The brake bends slightly to the right with 2 holes available connecting to the 
pedal bracket.  Both brackets look to be the same.
 
 Spacers at the master cylinders:  brake master has spacer between master and 
firewall.  Clutch master does not have spacer due to brake reservoir slightly 
to one side closest to clutch reservoir, so no spacer or the clutch master 
reservoir would contact brake master reservoir and would not bolt up.. 
 I see all this wasted foot well space and now wonder if I have the right 
pedals, brackets etc for this car. 
 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. 
 Regards Joel Martin
 
 
 


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