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Thanks all.
When I say stock springs, they have the same dimensions (thickness, coils) =
as stock springs. =C2=A0They are the ones on the car from 1979 when I bough=
t it. =C2=A0I believe the spring rubber is from CAT. =C2=A0Koni shock are o=
lder and have been tested off the car for proper rebound, compression and s=
eem right.
While the sit hight does not concern me too much, although definitely a fro=
nt to rear slope, it is the fact that something truly seems to be 'bound up=
'. =C2=A0Pushing on the fenders, moves things very little and I mean very l=
ittle.
15" wheels with 205/50/15 Yokohama S drive tires at this point on the front=
, not yet fitted the rears. =C2=A0Trying to find out what is 'binding' up t=
he front suspension is my main concern. =C2=A0
Loosing up upper and lower control arms, maybe removing the front sway bar,=
trying some rubber bushing lube would be my next steps and re tighten nuts=
on control arms after short drive with weight on suspension are probably m=
y next steps. =C2=A0The only binding I can think of is the upper and lower =
control arms unless someone can think of something else that I should look =
at?=C2=A0
Regards
Joel Martin
=20
From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: 'Joel Martin' <jmartiniii@yahoo.com>=20
Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Front Suspension
=20
MessageJoel=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 If you look at original pictures of the=
Tiger you will see they sit high.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The taller tires of the day =
made it look OK.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The shorter tires of today make it look wrong.=
There is a spec in the shop manual ride height; check it.=C2=A0All suspensi=
on components should be tightened in a loaded position to not put the parts=
in bind.=C2=A0I don't believe the sway bar can be mounted upside down.=C2=
=A0I believe I used the thinner=C2=A0Mustang II rubber cushion on top of th=
e springs to lower the front end a little.=C2=A0Ron Fraser
-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Marti=
n via Tigers
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 5:56 PM
To: Tiger List Serve
Subject: [Tigers] Front Suspension
Since it has been so quiet, I thought I would throw one out. =C2=A0My fro=
nt suspension is sooo stiff and the height is 2-3 inches in my mind higher =
than it should be. =C2=A0Rebuilt suspension, welded up per CAT instructions=
, stock springs, Koni shocks - old and all new rubber etc.=20
The front has no bounce at all. =C2=A0First idea is to loosen upper and lo=
wer control arm bolts, drive just a bit and then re-tighten. =C2=A0Can you =
put the front anti sway bar on upside down - not sure is could be a problem=
or not. =C2=A0Bushing grease on all new rubber?=20
Thoughts\ideas would be appreciated.=20
Joel Martin, MK1A
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56206"=
>Thanks all.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span=
><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56208">When I say stock springs, they have the s=
ame dimensions (thickness, coils) as stock springs. They are the ones=
on the car from 1979 when I bought it. I believe the spring rubber i=
s from CAT. Koni shock are older and have been tested off the car for=
proper rebound, compression and seem right.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1=
452860714381_55966"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56276">While the=
sit hight does not concern me too much, although definitely a front to rea=
r slope, it is the fact that something truly seems to be 'bound up'. =
Pushing on the fenders, moves things very little and I mean very little.</s=
pan></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966"><span><br></span></d=
iv><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56307">15" wheels with 205/50/15 Yokohama S drive t=
ires at this point on the front, not yet fitted the rears. Trying to =
find out what is 'binding' up the front suspension is my main concern. &nbs=
p;</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966" dir=3D"ltr"><sp=
an><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966" dir=3D"ltr=
"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56359">Loosing up upper and lower =
control arms, maybe removing the front sway bar, trying some rubber bushing=
lube would be my next steps and re tighten nuts on control arms after shor=
t drive with weight on suspension are probably my next steps. The onl=
y binding I can think of is the upper and lower control arms unless someone=
can think of something else that I should look at? </span></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span></div>=
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966" dir=3D"ltr"><span>Regards</spa=
n></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966" dir=3D"ltr"><span><br>=
</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_55966" dir=3D"ltr"><span=
>Joel Martin</span></div><br> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1452860714381_56212"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56366" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"fo=
nt-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1452860714381_56365"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helv=
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1_1452860714381_56363"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_=
1452860714381_56510"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">=
From:</span></b> Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com><br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Joel Martin' <jmartiniii@yahoo.c=
om> <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> tigers@Auto=
x.Team.Net<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunda=
y, January 17, 2016 7:38 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subje=
ct:</span></b> RE: [Tigers] Front Suspension<br> </font> </div> <div class=
=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56374"><br><div id=3D=
"yiv0395032359"><title>Message</title><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381=
_56373">
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016">Joel</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016"> If you look at original pict=
ures of=20
the Tiger you will see they sit high. The taller tires of the d=
ay=20
made it look OK. The shorter tires of today make it look=20
wrong.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016">There=20
is a spec in the shop manual ride height; check it.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016">All=20
suspension components should be tightened in a loaded position to not put t=
he=20
parts in bind.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016">I=20
don't believe the sway bar can be mounted upside down.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016"></span></font> </div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56372"><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56371"><span class=
=3D"yiv0395032359625253000-18012016" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_56370=
">I=20
believe I used the thinner Mustang II rubber cushion on top of the spr=
ings=20
to lower the front end a little.</span></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016"></span></font> </div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"><span class=3D"yiv03=
95032359625253000-18012016">Ron=20
Fraser</span></font></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0395032359yqt9364443723" id=3D"yiv0395032359yqt43996"><d=
iv align=3D"left" class=3D"yiv0395032359OutlookMessageHeader" dir=3D"ltr" l=
ang=3D"en-us"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<b=
r clear=3D"none"><b>From:</b> Tigers=20
[mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Martin vi=
a=20
Tigers<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 17, 2016 5:56 PM<br=
clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Tiger=20
List Serve<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Front Suspension<br=
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:#fff;FONT-FAMILY:garamond, new york, times=
, serif;COLOR:#000;FONT-SIZE:16px;">
<div id=3D"yiv0395032359yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_38122">Since it has be=
en so quiet, I thought=20
I would throw one out. My front suspension is sooo stiff and the he=
ight=20
is 2-3 inches in my mind higher than it should be. Rebuilt suspensi=
on,=20
welded up per CAT instructions, stock springs, Koni shocks - old and all =
new=20
rubber etc.</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0395032359yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_38122"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div>
<div id=3D"yiv0395032359yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_38122">The front has n=
o bounce at all.=20
First idea is to loosen upper and lower control arm bolts, drive ju=
st a=20
bit and then re-tighten. Can you put the front anti sway bar on ups=
ide=20
down - not sure is could be a problem or not. Bushing grease on all=
new=20
rubber?</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0395032359yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_38122"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div>
<div id=3D"yiv0395032359yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_38122">Thoughts\ideas =
would be=20
appreciated.</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0395032359yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_38122"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div>
<div id=3D"yiv0395032359yui_3_16_0_1_1452860714381_38122">Joel Martin,=20
MK1A</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div>=
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