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Re: [Tigers] Throttle return spring bracket

To: "'Bill Martin'" <tigerfixer@yahoo.com>, "'Gary'" <garywinblad@comcast.net>, <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Throttle return spring bracket
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 19:55:15 -0400
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Bill

Thank you for the great picture of the C2OZ-9741-B bracket and for the =
clarification of the picture in TBON.  The pictures I used of that =
bracket were off an early Mustang with a 260 engine.

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As I stated the C2OZ-9741-B bracket is listed in the Tiger Parts List, =
Section CF.  I have a couple of pictures that show that bracket on Tiger =
engines.  My quest here is to find out if that bracket was really part =
of the Tiger engine build or just a typo in the Parts List.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

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From: Bill Martin [mailto:tigerfixer@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 2:54 PM
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; 'Gary' <garywinblad@comcast.net>; =
tigers@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Throttle return spring bracket

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That bracket is from a falcon with an automatic, not a Tiger piece. It =
mounted on the top center valve cover bolt and was for the spring that =
pulled on the kick down linkage.

The image in Norm's book is from Chassis B9470040 and I have no Idea why =
Gordon Chittendon put the bracket on the car, if you look close you can =
see the short early=20



spring bracket behind it.=20



Bill

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On Monday, May 16, 2016 5:03 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers =

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Here is some more trivia.

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Tiger Parts List

Carb controls =E2=80=93 Section DF

1224891                Spring =E2=80=93 Accelerator return

1224854                Bracket =E2=80=93 Accelerator spring anchorage  =
Mk I

1229919                Bracket =E2=80=93 accelerator spring anchorage  =
Mk II

These parts all have Rootes part numbers.

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Gary your bracket should be the 1224854 part.  Again, note that the Mk =
II part has a different part #.

This seems to indicate the Mk II bracket is different somehow.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

=20

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From: Gary [mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net]=20
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Throttle return spring bracket

=20

Ron,

B9470622 has one like shown on

page 153 in TBON.

Gary



Sent from my iPhone


On May 15, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers =

Any of you have this bracket on your Tiger engine?

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I do not have a clear picture of this bracket so I cropped a couple of =
pictures to show most of it.

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Bob Mannel=E2=80=99s book has a couple of pictures =E2=80=93 pg. 2-23 =
and 5-21 =E2=80=93 pg. 5-21 also shows a picture of the 1965 bracket =
which might be on the Mk II engine.

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There is a picture of it in TBON under the front valve cover bolt on pg. =
148.  I also have a fuzzy picture of this bracket mounted under the =
intake manifold bolt with the spring attached.

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Here=E2=80=99s some trivia for you =E2=80=93 this bracket C2OZ-9741-B is =
listed in the Parts List =E2=80=93 Section CF =E2=80=93 note the 2nd =
part # for the Mk II

Carb =E2=80=93 Section CF

6100458                C2OZ-9741-B      Bracket =E2=80=93 accelerator =
return spring           Mk I

6100910                                                Bracket =E2=80=93 =
accelerator return spring           Mk II

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This bracket could be anywhere on your engine =E2=80=93 I have 1 picture =
where it is just a spare part on the engine.

=20

Ron Fraser

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Bill<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thank you =
for the great picture of the C2OZ-9741-B bracket and for the =
clarification of the picture in TBON.=C2=A0 The pictures I used of that =
bracket were off an early Mustang with a 260 =
engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>As I stated =
the C2OZ-9741-B bracket is listed in the Tiger Parts List, Section =
CF.=C2=A0 I have a couple of pictures that show that bracket on Tiger =
engines.=C2=A0 My quest here is to find out if that bracket was really =
part of the Tiger engine build or just a typo in the Parts =
List.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Bill Martin [mailto:tigerfixer@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May =
16, 2016 2:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ron Fraser &lt;rfraser@bluefrog.com&gt;; =
'Gary' &lt;garywinblad@comcast.net&gt;; =
tigers@Autox.Team.Net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Throttle return =
spring bracket<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463423805509_5474"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>That bracket is =
from a falcon with an automatic, not a Tiger piece. It mounted on the =
top center valve cover bolt and was for the spring that pulled on the =
kick down linkage.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463423805509_5796"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>The image in =
Norm's book is from Chassis B9470040 and I have no Idea why Gordon =
Chittendon put the bracket on the car, if you look close you can see the =
short early <br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463423805509_5865"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>spring bracket =
behind it. <br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463423805509_5612"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Bill<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Monday, May 16, 2016 5:03 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p><div><div id=3Dyiv1556835182><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Here is some =
more trivia.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Tiger Parts =
List</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Carb controls =
=E2=80=93 <b>Section DF</b><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>1224891&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Spring =E2=80=93 Accelerator =
return<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>1224854&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Bracket =E2=80=93 Accelerator spring anchorage&nbsp; Mk =
I<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>1229919&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Bracket =E2=80=93 accelerator spring anchorage&nbsp; Mk =
II<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>These parts all =
have Rootes part numbers.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Gary your =
bracket should be the 1224854 part.&nbsp; Again, note that the Mk II =
part has a different part #.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>This seems to =
indicate the Mk II bracket is different =
somehow.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv1556835182yqt24760><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b>=
<span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> Gary [<a =
href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net";>mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net</a=
>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 16, 2016 12:23 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ron =
Fraser &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<br><b>C=
c:</b> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net";>tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a>&gt; =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@Autox.Team.Net";>tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a>&gt;<br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Throttle return spring =
bracket<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Ron,<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>B9470622 has =
one like shown on<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>page 153 in =
TBON.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Gary<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br>Sent =
from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br>On May 15, =
2016, at 5:19 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Any of you have =
this bracket on your Tiger engine?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I do not have a =
clear picture of this bracket so I cropped a couple of pictures to show =
most of it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Bob =
Mannel=E2=80=99s book has a couple of pictures =E2=80=93 pg. 2-23 and =
5-21 =E2=80=93 pg. 5-21 also shows a picture of the 1965 bracket which =
might be on the Mk II engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>There is a =
picture of it in TBON under the front valve cover bolt on pg. 148.&nbsp; =
I also have a fuzzy picture of this bracket mounted under the intake =
manifold bolt with the spring =
attached.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Here=E2=80=99s =
some trivia for you =E2=80=93 this bracket C2OZ-9741-B is listed in the =
Parts List =E2=80=93 Section CF =E2=80=93 note the 2<sup>nd</sup> part # =
for the Mk II<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Carb =E2=80=93 =
<b>Section CF</b><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>6100458&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; C2OZ-9741-B&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bracket =E2=80=93 =
accelerator return =
spring&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mk =
I<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>6100910&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Bracket =E2=80=93 =
accelerator return =
spring&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mk =
II<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>This bracket =
could be anywhere on your engine =E2=80=93 I have 1 picture where it is =
just a spare part on the engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote =
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class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&lt;New =
Microsoft Word =
Document.docx&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquo=
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