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Re: [Tigers] One last dash question and then I'll go back to sleep...

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] One last dash question and then I'll go back to sleep...
From: CoolVT--- via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:27:11 -0400
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Ron,
Curious, in your picture showing the striped hose going from the  intake=
 to=20
the brake booster it is clamped down on the firewall-to-fender  brace.  On=
=20
some cars I've seen that clamp and some don't seem to have it. I  will hav=
e=20
to go through the pics of my own car to see if it was ever there, but  I=
=20
don't remember seeing a hole for the screw that would hold the clamp. Do=
 you =20
know if the clamp was standard on all versions of the Tiger?
Mark L
=20
=20
In a message dated 9/24/2016 10:15:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =20
tigers@autox.team.net writes:

 =20
=20
Mayf=20
I feel your pain about electrical things, I=E2=80=99m the same way, not a=
  sparky.=20
Seems  to me the Shop Manual is fairly clear about the hook up.=20
Voltage  regulator has a B  post for 12v, I  post for the instruments and=
=20
case  ground.=20
LGG  wire goes from I  post to, from the back side, the right side=20
instrument post on both  gages=20
GU  wire on the left side of the gage goes to temp sender=20
GB  wire goes to fuel level sender=20
Hope  the pictures help with the heater hoses, also see Shop Manual Sectio=
n=20
R, pg.  3, Fig 2.  Finding the 2 =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D parts helps  consider=
ably.=20
Ron  Fraser=20
=20
=20
From:  Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry =
=20
Mayfield via Tigers
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 7:33  PM
To: Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject:  [Tigers] One last dash question and then I'll go back to  sleep.=
..

Ok, when one looks at the, ahem, wiring diagram, contained  in the shop=20
manual or the one on Tigers United, when it becomes rapidly  evident that=
 the=20
places where the wires actually fasten to the instruments is  not there.=
 CAT=20
has a dash wiring diagram which does show the locations they  are mostly=
=20
evident. But when the temperature gauge and fuel gauges get  involved with=
 the=20
voltage stabilizer things get different.  I have tried  all the combinatio=
ns=20
that two wires on two instruments can be connected, four  total I think,=
=20
but still nothing works. Again, I have a farkle, I think, in  the voltage=
=20
stabilizer, but to eliminate the wiring as culprit to anything,  which wir=
e goes=20
where?  The CAT diagram shows the LGG wires from the  Voltage stabilizer=
=20
connecting to one post on the temp meter and the opposite  post on the fue=
l=20
meter.   =20
So how about one of you smart folk telling me that if you  are looking at=
=20
the back side of the fuel meter, which post/lug does the LGG  colored wire=
 go=20
onto  and same for the temp meter.   I can  figure out where the other wir=
e=20
goes since there will only be one  choice.   Then I can put those into=20
place so that I can get on with  life waiting and trying to decide which=
=20
replacement VS to purchase.   Heeellllpppp!=20
Next question. Will someone who has an unmolested vehicle  with all the=20
water plumbing as OEM take a photo and send it along to me?   I want to=20
reestablish the full heater and carb heating system that I removed  eons=
 ago and=20
forgot. I did find my two unobtainium T=E2=80=99s and I  have my OEM  temp=
 sensor to=20
reinstall, so all I need is hose routing. Not looking to make a  points ca=
r=20
shows or anything just need it to be reasonably functional.  Again any hel=
p=20
out there? =20
And now for some status=E2=80=A6 My car is a MK1 series and so it  has the=
 metal=20
soft top hide system.  And before I thought to much about  it, I installed=
=20
seat belts with a shoulder strap included, using the fender  seat beat=20
attachment points. Ok, well and good, but then the metal center  section=
 would not=20
go far enough down to permit the soft top t\o fold away. So  today I=20
corrected all that. I now have fully functional lap/shoulder seat  belts=
 for driver=20
and passenger AND the metal hide away parts are fully  functional now. P=
=20
side center panel latch needs to be adjusted but an easy  \task. At may st=
eady=20
pace of 5 steps backwards for every 5.1 steps forward it  shouldn=E2=80=99=
t take=20
more than a month, lol.  As so as it is adjusted I will  install the new=
 soft=20
top. =20
A photo attached=E2=80=A6 a teaser=E2=80=A6 but nothing magic about the =
 car. Race car is=20
hidden away under a pile of blankets and covers.  =20
mayf=20
_________________________
drmayf
Worlds  Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit (not  top)  speed=20



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<DIV><STRONG>Ron,</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Curious, in your picture showing the striped hose going from=
 the=20
intake to the brake booster it is clamped down on the firewall-to-fender=
=20
brace.&nbsp; On some cars I've seen that clamp and some don't seem to have=
 it. I=20
will have to go through the pics of my own car to see if it was ever there=
, but=20
I don't remember seeing a hole for the screw that would hold the clamp. Do=
 you=20
know if the clamp was standard on all versions of the Tiger?</STRONG></DIV=
>
<DIV><STRONG>Mark L</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 9/24/2016 10:15:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
tigers@autox.team.net writes:</DIV>
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alibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  I feel your pain about electrical things, I=E2=80=99m the same way, not=
 a=20
  sparky.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
alibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'>Seems=20
  to me the Shop Manual is fairly clear about the hook up.<o:p></o:p></SPA=
N></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
alibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'>Voltage=20
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=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
alibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'>LGG=20
  wire goes from </SPAN><B><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 18pt; FONT-FAMILY=
: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'>I</SPAN></B><SPAN     style=3D'=
FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'>=20
  post to, from the back side, the right side instrument post on both=20
  gages<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
alibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'>GU=20
  wire on the left side of the gage goes to temp sender<o:p></o:p></SPAN><=
/P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
alibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'>GB=20
  wire goes to fuel level sender<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
alibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
alibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'>Hope=20
  the pictures help with the heater hoses, also see Shop Manual Section R,=
 pg.=20
  3, Fig 2.&nbsp; Finding the 2 =E2=80=9CT=E2=80=9D parts helps=20
  considerably.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
alibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY:=
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>=20
  Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Larry=
=20
  Mayfield via Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 23, 2016 7:33=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tiger List &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<BR><B>Subject:=
</B>=20
  [Tigers] One last dash question and then I'll go back to=20
  sleep...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Ok, when one looks at the, ahem, wiring diagram, co=
ntained=20
  in the shop manual or the one on Tigers United, when it becomes rapidly=
=20
  evident that the places where the wires actually fasten to the instrumen=
ts is=20
  not there. CAT has a dash wiring diagram which does show the locations=
 they=20
  are mostly evident. But when the temperature gauge and fuel gauges get=
=20
  involved with the voltage stabilizer things get different.&nbsp; I have=
 tried=20
  all the combinations that two wires on two instruments can be connected,=
 four=20
  total I think, but still nothing works. Again, I have a farkle, I think,=
 in=20
  the voltage stabilizer, but to eliminate the wiring as culprit to anythi=
ng,=20
  which wire goes where?&nbsp; The CAT diagram shows the LGG wires from th=
e=20
  Voltage stabilizer connecting to one post on the temp meter and the oppo=
site=20
  post on the fuel meter. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>So how about one of you smart folk telling me that=
 if you=20
  are looking at the back side of the fuel meter, which post/lug does the=
 LGG=20
  colored wire go onto &nbsp;and same for the temp meter.&nbsp; &nbsp;I ca=
n=20
  figure out where the other wire goes since there will only be one=20
  choice.&nbsp; &nbsp;Then I can put those into place so that I can get on=
 with=20
  life waiting and trying to decide which replacement VS to purchase.&nbsp=
;=20
  Heeellllpppp!<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Next question. Will someone who has an unmolested=
 vehicle=20
  with all the water plumbing as OEM take a photo and send it along to me?=
&nbsp;=20
  I want to reestablish the full heater and carb heating system that I rem=
oved=20
  eons ago and forgot. I did find my two unobtainium T=E2=80=99s and I&nbs=
p; have my OEM=20
  temp sensor to reinstall, so all I need is hose routing. Not looking to=
 make a=20
  points car shows or anything just need it to be reasonably functional.=
=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;Again any help out there? <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>And now for some status=E2=80=A6 My car is a MK1 se=
ries and so it=20
  has the metal soft top hide system.&nbsp; And before I thought to much=
 about=20
  it, I installed seat belts with a shoulder strap included, using the fen=
der=20
  seat beat attachment points. Ok, well and good, but then the metal cente=
r=20
  section would not go far enough down to permit the soft top t\o fold awa=
y. So=20
  today I corrected all that. I now have fully functional lap/shoulder sea=
t=20
  belts for driver and passenger AND the metal hide away parts are fully=
=20
  functional now. P side center panel latch needs to be adjusted but an ea=
sy=20
  \task. At may steady pace of 5 steps backwards for every 5.1 steps forwa=
rd it=20
  shouldn=E2=80=99t take more than a month, lol.&nbsp; As so as it is adju=
sted I will=20
  install the new soft top. <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>A photo attached=E2=80=A6 a teaser=E2=80=A6 but not=
hing magic about the=20
  car. Race car is hidden away under a pile of blankets and covers.=20
  <o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>mayf<o:p></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN     style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "C=
alibri",sans-serif'>_________________________<BR>drmayf<BR>Worlds=20
  Fastest Sunbeam, period.<BR>204.913 mph flying mile<BR>210.779 mph exit=
 (not=20
  top)&nbsp; speed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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