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Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger AC Ace Clutch Slave Cylinder - new

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger AC Ace Clutch Slave Cylinder - new
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 15:02:01 -0400
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                Every cylinder like that has a max bore diameter or a =
limit as to how many times you can rebuild a cylinder.  I=E2=80=99m not =
sure what that max bore is but it would be interesting to know.   It =
would save a lot of rebuild time knowing that.   When the max bore is =
reached only a sleeve will restore the cylinder; probably easier to buy =
a new cylinder at that point.

                Also all those aluminum cylinder bores have to be =
polished to a near mirror finish to work correctly.   I forget what grit =
I used; I remember 600 and 800 and I know I have 1200 but I =
don=E2=80=99t recall if I used the 1200.  It=E2=80=99s around 40 years =
ago I did the cylinders on my Tiger.

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Ron Fraser

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From: jay.laifman@gmail.com [mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 2:30 PM
To: Jeffery Randall via Tigers <jefferyrandall@gmail.com>; Ron Fraser =
<rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Cc: Bill Lawrence <billlawrence@hotmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger AC Ace Clutch Slave Cylinder - new

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I drove my Alpine every day in the late 70s. I was in high school then, =
on a minimum wage budget. I was frequently rebuilding brake or clutch =
parts - blaming English parts. Then I got some more money, less time, =
and bought new ones rather than rebuild kits. Interestingly, the =
failures stopped.   Hmm. =20

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From: Jeffery Randall via Tigers

Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2016 1:04 AM

To: Ron Fraser

Reply To: Jeffery Randall=E2=80=8E


Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger AC Ace Clutch Slave Cylinder - new

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Buy the new slave I put one in my car 5 years ago and have had no =
issues.

  Jeff

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On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers =

Bill

                The Girling Clutch slave cylinder is a fairly common =
item.   You just have to make sure you are buying the same bore size and =
the correct mounting configuration.

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I would check with Sunbeam Specialties or other Sunbeam vendor 1st to =
support them, then look at alternative sources.

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Another way is to have the bore sleeved with brass or Stainless Steel.   =
I=E2=80=99m not sure the price of that these days.

=20

Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Tigers
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:47 AM
>
Subject: [Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger AC Ace Clutch Slave Cylinder - new

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Howdy Tigers

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Has anyone found a suitable replacement clutch slave cylinder for a =
stock Tiger?=20

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I have suffered through a couple refurb units and am thinking about =
ordering this unit from  <http://www.sportsandclassics.com> =
www.sportsandclassics.com.

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Any thoughts?

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Bill Lawrence

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if I used the 1200.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s around 40 years ago I did the =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
jay.laifman@gmail.com [mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> =
Saturday, October 01, 2016 2:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jeffery Randall via =
Tigers &lt;jefferyrandall@gmail.com&gt;; Ron Fraser =
&lt;rfraser@bluefrog.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Bill Lawrence =
&lt;billlawrence@hotmail.com&gt;; =
tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger AC =
Ace Clutch Slave Cylinder - new<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I drove my =
Alpine every day in the late 70s. I was in high school then, on a =
minimum wage budget. I was frequently rebuilding brake or clutch parts - =
blaming English parts. Then I got some more money, less time, and bought =
new ones rather than rebuild kits. Interestingly, the failures stopped. =
&nbsp; Hmm. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
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0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Jeffery =
Randall via Tigers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Sent: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Saturday, =
October 1, 2016 1:04 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>To: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Reply To: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Jeffery =
Randall=E2=80=8E<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Cc: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Bill =
Lawrence; <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Subject: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Re: [Tigers] =
Sunbeam Tiger AC Ace Clutch Slave Cylinder - =
new<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></td></tr></table><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
id=3D"_originalContent"><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Buy the new slave =
I put one in my car 5 years ago and have had no =
issues.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp; =
Jeff<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, =
Sep 29, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Bill</span><o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; The Girling Clutch slave cylinder is a fairly common =
item.&nbsp;&nbsp; You just have to make sure you are buying the same =
bore size and the correct mounting =
configuration.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I would =
check with Sunbeam Specialties or other Sunbeam vendor 1<sup>st</sup> to =
support them, then look at alternative sources.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Another way =
is to have the bore sleeved with brass or Stainless Steel.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
I=E2=80=99m not sure the price of that these =
days.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ron =
Fraser</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentColor =
currentColor'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Tigers [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bill Lawrence via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 29, =
2016 9:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> sunbeam tiger &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Tigers] Sunbeam Tiger AC Ace Clutch Slave Cylinder - =
new</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div id=3D"m_2909936728857523457divtagdefaultwrapper"><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Howdy =
Tigers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Has anyone found =
a suitable replacement clutch slave cylinder for a stock =
Tiger?&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I have suffered =
through a couple refurb units and am thinking about ordering this unit =
from&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"http://www.sportsandclassics.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" id=3D"m_2909936728857523457LPlnk369419"><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>www.sportsandclassics.com</spa=
n></a><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>.</span><o:p></o:p=
></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Any =
thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Bill =
Lawrence</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p><a =
href=3D"http://www.sportsandclassics.com/parts/british-other/sunbeam/sunb=
eam-tiger-clutch-slave-cylinder/" target=3D"_blank" =
id=3D"m_2909936728857523457LPlnk387258"><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>http://www.sportsandclassics.c=
om/parts/british-other/sunbeam/sunbeam-tiger-clutch-slave-cylinder/</span=
></a><o:p></o:p></p><div style=3D'margin-bottom:15.0pt;overflow:auto' =
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