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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth
From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:44:08 -0700
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>>>CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL<<<

And for the small increase in cost, I=E2=80=99d recommend a roller chain ov=
er a link chain.

Examples (used 1965 Mustang in search - it list =E2=80=9C289 and up.=E2=80=
=9D If 260 is different please correct):
 https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/timing-chain-and-gear-sets/y=
ear/1965/make/ford/model/mustang?SortBy=3DDisplayPrice&SortOrder=3DAscendin=
g&tw=3Dtiming%20chain&sw=3Dtiming%20chain%20and%20gear%20sets

From: James Armstrong via Tigers 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 6:02 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net 
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth

Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!

If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR
FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL
It IS an interference engine.

Jim Armstrong

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  From: rfraser@bluefrog.com
  To: rollright@aol.com
  Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
  Subject: RE: nylon teeth


  Jim

                  It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise=
=2E

  I=E2=80=99m sure Ford tested it extensively and I=E2=80=99m sure it ran f=
ine for their tests but it did not take into account time, years of time.



  I don=E2=80=99t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference materi=
al only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.



  Ron



  From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM
  To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
  Subject: Re: nylon teeth



  What idiots




  When did they go back to steel?




  Jim A




  In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfraser@bl=
uefrog.com writes:



    Jim

                    Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub M=
arch 1965; prior to that it was steel gears.

    Ron



    From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com> 
    Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM
    To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
    Subject: nylon teeth




    Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth,=
 Ron?





    Jim Armstrong

    Mk 1A

    382002083 LRXFE

    Code 86

    TAC #....


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<DIV>&gt;&gt;&gt;<SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: "><FONT face=3DArial>=
<FONT 
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO 
STEEL&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>And for the small increase in cost, I=E2=80=99d recommend a roller cha=
in over a 
link chain.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Examples (used 1965 Mustang in search - it list =E2=80=9C289 and up.=
=E2=80=9D If 260 is 
different please correct):</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dtigers@autox.team.=
net 
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>James Armstrong via Tigers</A> </DIV>=

<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 28, 2018 6:02 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dtigers@autox.team.net 
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Pay 
attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!</SPAN></DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">If 
you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">FROM 
NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">It 
IS an interference engine.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Jim 
Armstrong</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DquotedReply>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid">=

  <HR>
  <SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #000000; BACKGROUND=
-COLOR: transparent"><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #000000; BACKGROUND=
-COLOR: transparent">From: 
  rfraser@bluefrog.com<BR>To: rollright@aol.com<BR>Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 =
PM 
  Eastern Standard Time<BR>Subject: RE: nylon teeth<BR><BR></SPAN></SPAN>
  <DIV id=3DAOLMsgPart_2_bbd8e140-eb59-49d0-9b71-677f80e80cef>
  <DIV lang=3DEN-US class=3DaolReplacedBody>
  <DIV class=3DWordSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Jim</P>
  <P 
  class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m sure Ford tested it extensively and I=E2=
=80=99m sure it ran 
  fine for their tests but it did not take into account time, years of time=
=2E</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t know when Ford changed back to steel=
, my reference 
  material only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Ron</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG>From:</STRONG> James Armstrong &lt;<A 
  href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com";>rollright@aol.com</A>&gt; 
  <BR><STRONG>Sent:</STRONG> Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 
  PM<BR><STRONG>To:</STRONG> <A 
  href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</A><BR><STRONG>=
Subject:</STRONG> 
  Re: nylon teeth</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; BACKGROUND: wh=
ite; COLOR: black">What 
  idiots</SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: black">=
<BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; BACKGROUND: wh=
ite; COLOR: black">When 
  did they go back to steel?</SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: black">=
<BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; BACKGROUND: wh=
ite; COLOR: black">Jim 
  A</SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: black">=
<BR></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Stan=
dard 
  Time, <A href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer"=
 
  target=3D_blank>rfraser@bluefrog.com</A> writes:</P>
  <DIV>
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    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Jim</P>=

    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; 
    Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March 1965; prior=
 to 
    that it was steel gears.</P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Ron</P>=

    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">&nbsp;<=
/P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><STRONG=
><SPAN 
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif">From:</SPAN></STRONG> James=
 
    Armstrong &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com"; rel=3D"noopener nore=
ferrer" 
    target=3D_blank>rollright@aol.com</A>&gt; <BR><STRONG><SPAN 
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif">Sent:</SPAN></STRONG> Thurs=
day, 
    September 27, 2018 2:35 PM<BR><STRONG><SPAN 
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif">To:</SPAN></STRONG> <A 
    href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" 
    target=3D_blank>rfraser@bluefrog.com</A><BR><STRONG><SPAN 
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif">Subject:</SPAN></STRONG> ny=
lon 
    teeth</P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">&nbsp;<=
/P>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN 
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; BACKGROUND: =
white; COLOR: black"><BR>Do 
    you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth, 
    Ron?</SPAN></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">&nbsp;<=
/P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
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/P></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Jim 
    Armstrong</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Mk 
1A</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">3820020=
83 
    LRXFE</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Code 
    86</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">TAC 
    #....</P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV><=
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