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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 10, Issue 231
From: Thomas Calvert via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 18:41:34 +0000 (UTC)
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Regarding Plastic cam gear teeth,=C2=A0 My 1979 351 failed at 143K miles.=
=C2=A0 Put steel gears in at that time.

I agree with Bugzy about the Edelbrock carb boiling.=C2=A0 I went back to a=
 new Holley 1848. I could not tolerate the poor start up and stalling on wa=
rm restart of the Edelbrock.

Tom calvert.


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Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 10, Issue 231

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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 1. Re: Carb Question (Mark Rense)
=C2=A0 2. Fwd: nylon teeth (James Armstrong)
=C2=A0 3. Re: Fwd: nylon teeth (Ron Fraser)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 14:09:16 -0400
From: Mark Rense <mark44124@gmail.com>
To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CA+8dKTuoVztX+owZjWPYX4_iDdnO15JRcAFJrdaJTBQQfNjuqA@mai=
l.gmail.com>

Are you trying to be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering
system? As an engine builder I?ve used many different carbs in many
different applications. I use a gas analyzer to get mixture correct and
have found the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune. The 1403 500 CFM
is a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 hp.=C2=A0 However, th=
ey
are definitely more susceptible to gas boiling, and we all know how cool it
is under a Tiger bonnet!

The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and worked well on the 260.
Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on moderately breathed-upon
engines and tolerates more thermal input but comes way too rich out of the
box. Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position, accept pump, bowl
cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new Holleys. There is
also a Street Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to run much cooler but
at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.

There are many new FI systems out there and to me the biggest advantage is
cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning and tolerance of the poor quality
swill that comes out of the pump. I am thinking that I will install the
Holley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this winter as it is the least
invasive system I?ve seen so far.


https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/snip=
er_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516

Good luck!
Bugz


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
>
wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and =
I
> want to use a new carburetor.=C2=A0 The original owner had a Holley 650cf=
m on it
> and I understand that something smaller will work better.
>
> So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 140=
3
> (500cfm).
>
> Is anybody using a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a friend who is using the =
FiTech
> Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers@autox.team.net
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:02:58 -0400
From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth

Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!
?
 If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR
FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL
It IS an interference engine.
?
Jim Armstrong
From: rfraser@bluefrog.com
To: rollright@aol.com
Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
Subject: RE: nylon teeth

Jim
??????????????? It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.
I?m sure Ford tested it extensively and I?m sure it ran fine for their test=
s but it did not take into account time, years of time.
?
I don?t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference material only go=
es to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.
?
Ron
?
From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM
To:rfraser@bluefrog.com
Subject: Re: nylon teeth
?
What idiots
?
When did they go back to steel?
?
Jim A
?
In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfraser@blue=
frog.com writes:
?
Jim
??????????????? Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March=
 1965; prior to that it was steel gears.
Ron
?
From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM
To:rfraser@bluefrog.com
Subject: nylon teeth
?

Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth, Ron=
?
?
?
Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
382002083 LRXFE
Code 86
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:25:57 -0400
From: "Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth

The nylon teeth on the aluminum hub cam gear started in March 1965.

=20

The nylon teeth crack and break off with age and use

If you are working on an engine and you find the nylon teeth ? replace it b=
efore it fails completely and leaves you stranded somewhere.

=20

B19KC, A11KK, A22KK engines will have this nylon toothed gear

=20

All engines before March 1965 have the steel gears.

=20

I do not know when Ford stopped using this nylon gear and went back to stee=
l.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

=20

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James Armstrong v=
ia Tigers
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 9:03 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth

=20

Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!

=20

If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR

FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL

It IS an interference engine.

=20

Jim Armstrong

=C2=A0 _____=C2=A0=20

Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
Subject: RE: nylon teeth

Jim

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 It was one of those=
 better ideas to quiet the chain noise.

I?m sure Ford tested it extensively and I?m sure it ran fine for their test=
s but it did not take into account time, years of time.

=20

I don?t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference material only go=
es to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.

=20

Ron

=20

Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: nylon teeth

=20

What idiots

=20

When did they go back to steel?

=20

Jim A

=20

In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfraser@blue=

=20

Jim

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ford started using =
the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March 1965; prior to that it was steel g=
ears.

Ron

=20

Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM
Subject: nylon teeth

=20


Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth, Ron=
?

=20

=20

Jim Armstrong

Mk 1A

382002083 LRXFE

Code 86

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 font-size: 10pt;">Regarding Plastic cam gear teeth,&nbsp; My 1979 351 fail=
ed at 143K miles.&nbsp; Put steel gears in at that time.<br><br>I agree wit=
h Bugzy about the Edelbrock carb boiling.&nbsp; I went back to a new Holley=
 1848. I could not tolerate the poor start up and stalling on warm restart =
of the Edelbrock.<br><br>Tom calvert.<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----=
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div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CA+8dKTuoVz=
tX+<a href=3D"mailto:owZjWPYX4_iDdnO15JRcAFJrdaJTBQQfNjuqA@mail.gmail.com"; =
rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:owZjWPYX4_iDdnO15JRcAFJrdaJTB=
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om</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"u=
tf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Are you trying t=
o be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">system? As an engine builder I?ve used many different carbs in man=
y<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">different applications. I use a gas analyzer to=
 get mixture correct and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">have found the Edelbrock=
 (Carter) series easiest to tune. The 1403 500 CFM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">is a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 hp.&nbsp; However, =
they<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">are definitely more susceptible to gas boili=
ng, and we all know how cool it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">is under a Tiger =
bonnet!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The 1848 is wh=
at I think came on a LAT1 kit and worked well on the 260.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on moderately breath=
ed-upon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">engines and tolerates more thermal input =
but comes way too rich out of the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">box. Plus they =
need a full setup (butterfly position, accept pump, bowl<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new Holleys. T=
here is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">also a Street Demon with poly bowls that =
is claimed to run much cooler but<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">at 625 CFM is m=
uch too big for a 260.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>There are many new FI systems out there and to me the biggest advantage is=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning and toler=
ance of the poor quality<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">swill that comes out of =
the pump. I am thinking that I will install the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">H=
olley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this winter as it is the least<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">invasive system I?ve seen so far.<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https:=
//www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_4bb=
l_tbi_kits/parts/550-516" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer">htt=
ps://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_=
4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Good luck!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bugz<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Sep 25, 20=
18 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>t=
igers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">wrote:<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Hey,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I will be rebuilding my engine soon (o=
riginal 260, no modifications) and I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; want to=
 use a new carburetor.&nbsp; The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; and I understand that something smaller will =
work better.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; (500cfm).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Is anybody using a FiTech system?&nbsp; I have =
a friend who is using the FiTech<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Go EFI 4 on=
 his old truck and he swears by it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Joe Brown<br>=
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t</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ut=
f-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Pay attention Mk =
1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> If you have the face of the engine off, CHAN=
GE THE TIMING GEAR<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It IS an interference engine.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Armstrong<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">F=
rom: <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com"; rel=3D"noopener nore=
ferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com";>rollright@aol.com</a><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: RE: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">??????????????? It was o=
ne of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">I?m sure Ford tested it extensively and I?m sure it ran fine for their te=
sts but it did not take into account time, years of time.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I don?t know when Ford changed back to=
 steel, my reference material only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon te=
eth.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: James Armstrong &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Se=
nt: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To:<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Subject: Re: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">What idiots<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
When did they go back to steel?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Jim A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In a=
 message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a href=3D"mailt=
o:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfras=
er@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> writes:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">??????????????? =
Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March 1965; prior to =
that it was steel gears.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: James Armstrong &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollrig=
ht@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Thur=
sday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To:<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rf=
raser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subj=
ect: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or change=
d from nylon teeth, Ron?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Armstrong<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mk =
1A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">382002083 LRXFE<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Code=
 86<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">TAC #....<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">---------=
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------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 3<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:25:57 -0400<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">From: "Ron Fraser" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; r=
el=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@=
bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ti=
gers@Autox.Team.Net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@A=
utox.Team.Net">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subj=
ect: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &l=
t;006d01d45747$f54c2650$dfe472f0$@bluefrog.com&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The nylon teeth on the aluminum hub cam gear starte=
d in March 1965.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The nylon teeth crack and=
 break off with age and use<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">If you are working on an engine and you find the nylon teeth ? replac=
e it before it fails completely and leaves you stranded somewhere.<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">B19KC, A11KK, A22KK engines will have this nylon t=
oothed gear<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">All engines before March 1965 =
have the steel gears.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I do not know when F=
ord stopped using this nylon gear and went back to steel.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Fraser<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On B=
ehalf Of James Armstrong via Tigers<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Friday,=
 September 28, 2018 9:03 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto=
:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:tiger=
s@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subje=
ct: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Pay attenti=
on Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING G=
EAR<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">FROM NYLON/ALUMINU=
M TO STEEL<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It IS an in=
terference engine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Armstrong<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; _____&nbsp; <br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@b=
luefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog=
.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefro=
g.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>=
rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mail=
to:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollrig=
ht@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rollright@ao=
l.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com";>rol=
lright@aol.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 P=
M Eastern Standard Time<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: RE: nylon teeth<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I?m sure Ford tested =
it extensively and I?m sure it ran fine for their tests but it did not take=
 into account time, years of time.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I don?t=
 know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference material only goes to 1=
969 and it still shows nylon teeth.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: James Armstrong &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@=
aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.c=
om" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com";>rollri=
ght@aol.com</a>&gt; &gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Thursday, Septemb=
er 27, 2018 3:59 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser=
@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefr=
og.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluef=
rog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com=
">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: nylo=
n teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What idiots<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">When did they go back to steel?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Jim A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:5=
6 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"=
noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefr=
og.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"noopen=
er noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com=
</a>&gt;&nbsp; writes:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub Ma=
rch 1965; prior to that it was steel gears.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: James Arms=
trong &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com";>rollright@aol.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mail=
to:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; &gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">T=
o: <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Subject: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from=
 nylon teeth, Ron?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Armstrong<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mk 1A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">382002083 LRXFE<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Code 86<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">TAC #....<b=
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