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Good idea.=C2=A0 Consider this the diagnosis phase.=C2=A0 If they work the=
n you have a choice.=C2=A0=20
1) Pull the gauges (or just the tach) and fix/replace the switch, or=20
2) Just find an alternate feed (green wire) and let it go at that.=C2=A0=20
The only down side to #2 is that if you engage the flashers with the key of=
f AND with the turn signal in the right or left position there will be a cr=
oss circuit that will try to feed the green and the white circuits through =
the flashers.=C2=A0 I think the flashers will be the weak link but they are=
relatively easy to replace.
=20
Dave=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Feb 1, 2022 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues
#yiv6598302901 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Temporarily bypass the haza=
rd switch by sending a known 12V to the input side of the turn signal flash=
er. Disconnect the green/slate wire and leave the green/brown wire connecte=
d. Put a known hot 12V (I'd just to go the battery, but I'm brave) to where=
the green/slate was connected. If the flasher is OK and the column switch =
is OK, they should work left and right.=C2=A0 =C2=A0
I'm with you on dreading removing the big gauges to get at the hazard switc=
h connector. It's a PIA.=C2=A0 I probably wouldn't go back in there without=
a brand-new Hazard switch in hand.=C2=A0
Sloane=C2=A0
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2022 10:32 PM
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Cc: im_sloane@hotmail.com <im_sloane@hotmail.com>; 6pack@autox.team.net <6p=
ack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues=C2=A0Tom, Dave et.al,
Thank you for your continued efforts. Although I've done it at least a coup=
le times over the past 22 years of ownership, I hate to have to remove the =
big dials to give me access to the hazard switch and have to stare at the p=
anoply of wiring. I just need to chill and return to this tomorrow, so I'm =
going to have a bourbon (it's after 5 on the right coast).
Thanks again for your help.Bob Fabie
On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 5:04 PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
Check the emergency flasher switch.=C2=A0 Power to the turn signal flasher =
passed through that switch which will disconnect the power when the emergen=
cy flashers are engaged.=C2=A0
Or you can pull the two light green/brown wires off of the switch and jumpe=
r them together and see if the turn signals work.
Dave=20
-----Original Message-----
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com>
To: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Feb 1, 2022 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues
Thank you all for your help and suggestions.I'm frustrated and a bit overwh=
elmed at trying to diagnose/fix the non functioning turn signals - the ONLY=
electrical thing that does not work. Everything else works: - headlights, =
parking lights, back-up lighst, 4 way hazards (needed new flasher), brake l=
ights, dash lights, heater, wiper and washer, trunk light - everything work=
s.=20
What I know for sure is that neither of the two wires at the turn signal fl=
asher are getting voltage. I'm not sure what to do next.
ThanksBob Fabie
On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 11:16 AM im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com> wrote:
Electrical issues can be frustratingly fun. That hazard switch is a bugger.=
=C2=A0 I may be restating the obvious, but just in case...(I believe I'm re=
ading the schematic correctly, but someone will correct me if not.)=C2=A0 1=
2V has to come in from the hazard flasher, already flashing, on the LG/K (l=
ight green / pink stripe) wire, and when the switch is pulled out, it sends=
12V to the Green/Red to flash the left-side bulbs and also to the Green/Wh=
ite to flash the right-side bulbs. This action also removes the 12V from be=
ing sent from the Green wire thru to the LG/S (light green/slate) wire whic=
h connects to the steering column directional switch. Thus, when you have t=
he hazard pulled out, the turn signal circuit has no power, causing no prob=
lem if you have the turn signal switch up or down.=C2=A0
The hazards are on the Purple (always on) circuit. The turn signals are on =
the Green (on with the key switch) circuit.=C2=A0
When the switch is pushed in, the 12V from Green is passed out the LG/S to =
the Turn Signal Flasher, then to the steering column turn signal switch and=
then down either the Green/Red side or Green/White side.=C2=A0
So, two totally different things going on in this one little bugger of a sw=
itch. For the hazards to work, you need voltage getting to the hazard flash=
er on the purple wire, and making it to the switch on the light-green/pink =
wire. This blinking juice must make it thru the switch to both the G/R side=
and G/W side. For the signals to work, voltage must enter thru the Green w=
ire and exit the Light-green/Slate wire, making it thru the flasher to the =
column switch and down the respective G/R or G/W side.=C2=A0
Easy huh? On my brother's 73, I've had that little bugger completely disass=
embled, soldered wires, cleaned brass contacts, but eventually only a new s=
witch fixed it. It would work for 3 weeks and then nothing again.=C2=A0 Tur=
n signals always worked. It was the hazard that always went out.=C2=A0
A car with turn signals working only on one side sounds like the steering c=
olumn switch to me. It could be the ground at the bulbs, but strange that f=
ront and rear on one side would have the problem, which points me to the tu=
rn signal switch.=C2=A0
Sloane=C2=A069-Six72-Spit
From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of DAVID MASSEY <dave1=
massey@cs.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2022 1:38 PM
To: bobfabie@gmail.com <bobfabie@gmail.com>
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues=C2=A0OK.=C2=A0 No turn signals at all may b=
e the hazard switch.=C2=A0 The hazard switch disconnects the turn signal fl=
asher.=C2=A0 If those contacts are dodgy the turn signals won't work.=C2=A0=
If the contacts for the right side are dodgy they won't work in the hazard=
mode.=C2=A0 I'd start there.
Dave=20
-----Original Message-----
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2022 6:11 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues
Dave,
Thank you for taking the time to respond. As you suggested, I metered out t=
he green wires and found the one that was producing 12 volts. When I connec=
ted it to the one of the wires in the harness connected to the trans back u=
p lights, THEY WORKED!
The two remaining issuers are: no turn signals, period. Hazards only flash =
on he driver=E2=80=99s side. (Earlier I stated that I only had turn signals=
on the drivers side, but I was mistaken). A new turn signal module and haz=
ard module should arrive this weekend. Please share any other thoughts as t=
o the cause(s) of these issues.
Thanks again for your help.
Bob Fabie
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:53 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
Here is a screen shot of the wiring to the transmission From Dan Master's h=
andy wiring diagrams.=C2=A0 As you can see, there is a green wire (fused 12=
volts) to the switch and a Green/Brown wire which feeds power from the swi=
tch to the lights.=C2=A0 The Green wire should be hot anytime the key is on=
.=C2=A0 The fuse that feeds it also feeds power to the heater fan, wipers, =
gauges, turn signals so if they work you are probably good.
Turn signals: are both lights not working or is it just one?=C2=A0 If one b=
ulb is not lighting up the other bulb will not draw enough current to cause=
the flasher to flash.
On the other hand, it might just be the bulbs or bulb sockets.=C2=A0 The so=
ckets are notoriously unreliable, especially when they get old.=C2=A0 The g=
round connection is the usual suspect.=C2=A0 Start there.=C2=A0 If you have=
a volt meter check for voltage on the wires where they plug onto the socke=
ts.
Dave=20
-----Original Message-----
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com>
To: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 9:09 pm
Subject: [6pack] Two Issues
Hello All,
As you may know from my earlier post, by TR6 is alive and running beautiful=
ly following an extensive engine rebuild that ended up taking a few years, =
rather than the few months I had envisioned. Life and other important thing=
s interfered. Imagine that=E2=80=A6
I=E2=80=99m now finishing up the final details and have encountered two iss=
ues, probably unrelated, that I need your help in diagnosing.=C2=A0
First: Only my left turn signal works and the hazard light doesn=E2=80=99t =
work at all.=C2=A0
Second: The back-up lights don=E2=80=99t work. I=E2=80=99ve installed a new=
back up light harness. I=E2=80=99ve tried to study the wiring diagram but =
can=E2=80=99t quite figure out how the 3 wires connect to the main harness=
=E2=80=99 3 bullet connectors in the passenger foot well area. I can see th=
at two of the new harness wires are solid green and the other has a ?red? t=
hread. The main harness wires are almost impossible to discern which are so=
lid and which has a different color thread.
Can anyone help me sort out these issues?
Thanks.Bob FabieFredericksburg, VA
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Good idea. Consider this the diagnosis phase.&=
nbsp; If they work then you have a choice. <br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">1) Pull the gauges (or just the tach) and fix/replace=
the switch, or <br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">2) Just find an alternate feed (green wire) and let i=
t go at that. <br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"3">The only down side to #2 is that if you engage the fl=
ashers with the key off AND with the turn signal in the right or left posit=
ion there will be a cross circuit that will try to feed the green and the w=
hite circuits through the flashers. I think the flashers will be the =
weak link but they are relatively easy to replace.</font><br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font=
size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com><br>
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Tue, Feb 1, 2022 8:34 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues<br>
<br>
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-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}</style>
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Temporarily bypass the hazard switch by sending a known 12V to the input si=
de of the turn signal flasher. Disconnect the green/slate wire and leave th=
e green/brown wire connected. Put a known hot 12V (I'd just to go the batte=
ry, but I'm brave) to where the
green/slate was connected. If the flasher is OK and the column switch is O=
K, they should work left and right. </div>
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or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I'm with you on dreading removing the big gauges to get at the hazard switc=
h connector. It's a PIA. I probably wouldn't go back in there without=
a brand-new Hazard switch in hand. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Sloane </div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv6598302901divRplyFwdMsg"><font style=3D"font-size=
:11pt;" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> rmf3860=
rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 1, 2022 10:32 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> im_sloane@hotmail.com <im_sloane@hotmail.com>; 6pack@autox=
.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Two Issues</font>
<div> </div>
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<div>
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<div>Tom, Dave <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://et.al/";>et.al</a>,</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Thank you for your continued efforts. Although I've done it at least a=
couple times over the past 22 years of ownership, I hate to have to remove=
the big dials to give me access to the hazard switch and have to stare at =
the panoply of wiring. I just need
to chill and return to this tomorrow, so I'm going to have a bourbon (it's=
after 5 on the right coast).</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Thanks again for your help.</div>
<div>Bob Fabie<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv6598302901x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at=
5:04 PM DAVID MASSEY <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:dave1massey@cs.com">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
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,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv6598302901x_gmail_quote">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div><font size=3D"3">Check the emergency flasher switch. Power to th=
e turn signal flasher passed through that switch which will disconnect the =
power when the emergency flashers are engaged.
<br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><font size=3D"3">Or you can pull the two light green/brown wires off o=
f the switch and jumper them together and see if the turn signals work.</fo=
nt></div>
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</div>
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</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both;"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br clear=3D"none">
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nt size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bobfabie@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailt=
o:bobfabie@gmail.com">bobfabie@gmail.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
To: im sloane <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:im_sloane@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:im_=
sloane@hotmail.com">im_sloane@hotmail.com</a>><br clear=3D"none">
Cc: <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:6pack@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.n=
et">6pack@autox.team.net</a> <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sh=
ape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"n=
one">
Sent: Tue, Feb 1, 2022 1:52 pm<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Thank you all for your help and suggestions.</div>
<div>I'm frustrated and a bit overwhelmed at trying to diagnose/fix the non=
functioning turn signals - the ONLY electrical thing that does not work. E=
verything else works: - headlights, parking lights, back-up lighst, 4 way h=
azards (needed new flasher), brake
lights, dash lights, heater, wiper and washer, trunk light - everything wo=
rks. <br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>What I know for sure is that neither of the two wires at the turn sign=
al flasher are getting voltage. I'm not sure what to do next.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Bob Fabie</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>
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">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 11:16 AM im sloane <<a rel=3D"no=
follow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:im_sloane@hotm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:im_sloane@hotmail.com";>im_sloane@=
hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
Electrical issues can be frustratingly fun. That hazard switch is a bugger.=
I may be restating the obvious, but just in case...(I believe I'm re=
ading the schematic correctly, but someone will correct me if not.) 1=
2V has to come in from the hazard flasher,
already flashing, on the LG/K (light green / pink stripe) wire, and when t=
he switch is pulled out, it sends 12V to the Green/Red to flash the left-si=
de bulbs and also to the Green/White to flash the right-side bulbs. This ac=
tion also removes the 12V from being
sent from the Green wire thru to the LG/S (light green/slate) wire which c=
onnects to the steering column directional switch. Thus, when you have the =
hazard pulled out, the turn signal circuit has no power, causing no problem=
if you have the turn signal switch
up or down. </div>
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or:rgb(0,0,0);">
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or:rgb(0,0,0);">
The hazards are on the Purple (always on) circuit. The turn signals are on =
the Green (on with the key switch) circuit. </div>
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or:rgb(0,0,0);">
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</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
When the switch is pushed in, the 12V from Green is passed out the LG/S to =
the Turn Signal Flasher, then to the steering column turn signal switch and=
then down either the Green/Red side or Green/White side. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
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</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
So, two totally different things going on in this one little bugger of a sw=
itch. For the hazards to work, you need voltage getting to the hazard flash=
er on the purple wire, and making it to the switch on the light-green/pink =
wire. This blinking juice must make
it thru the switch to both the G/R side and G/W side. For the signals to w=
ork, voltage must enter thru the Green wire and exit the Light-green/Slate =
wire, making it thru the flasher to the column switch and down the respecti=
ve G/R or G/W side. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
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</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
Easy huh? On my brother's 73, I've had that little bugger completely disass=
embled, soldered wires, cleaned brass contacts, but eventually only a new s=
witch fixed it. It would work for 3 weeks and then nothing again. Tur=
n signals always worked. It was the hazard
that always went out. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
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</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
A car with turn signals working only on one side sounds like the steering c=
olumn switch to me. It could be the ground at the bulbs, but strange that f=
ront and rear on one side would have the problem, which points me to the tu=
rn signal switch. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
Sloane </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 29, 2022 1:38 PM<br clear=3D"none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Two Issues</font>
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<div><font size=3D"3">OK. No turn signals at all may be the hazard sw=
itch. The hazard switch disconnects the turn signal flasher. If=
those contacts are dodgy the turn signals won't work. If the contact=
s for the right side are dodgy they won't work in the
hazard mode. I'd start there.</font><br clear=3D"none">
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nt size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
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To: DAVID MASSEY <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect"=
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Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2022 6:11 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Dave,</div>
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<div>Thank you for taking the time to respond. As you suggested, I metered =
out the green wires and found the one that was producing 12 volts. When I c=
onnected it to the one of the wires in the harness connected to the trans b=
ack up lights, THEY WORKED!</div>
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<div>The two remaining issuers are: no turn signals, period. Hazards only f=
lash on he driver=E2=80=99s side. (Earlier I stated that I only had turn si=
gnals on the drivers side, but I was mistaken). A new turn signal module an=
d hazard module should arrive this weekend.
Please share any other thoughts as to the cause(s) of these issues.</div>
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<div>Thanks again for your help.</div>
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<div>Bob Fabie</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:53 AM DAVID MASSEY <<a rel=3D=
"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave1massey=
@cs.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey@c=
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<div><font size=3D"3">Here is a screen shot of the wiring to the transmissi=
on From Dan Master's handy wiring diagrams. As you can see, there is =
a green wire (fused 12 volts) to the switch and a Green/Brown wire which fe=
eds power from the switch to the lights.
The Green wire should be hot anytime the key is on. The fuse that fe=
eds it also feeds power to the heater fan, wipers, gauges, turn signals so =
if they work you are probably good.</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"3">Turn signals: are both lights not working or is it ju=
st one? If one bulb is not lighting up the other bulb will not draw e=
nough current to cause the flasher to flash.</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"3">On the other hand, it might just be the bulbs or bulb=
sockets. The sockets are notoriously unreliable, especially when the=
y get old. The ground connection is the usual suspect. Start th=
ere. If you have a volt meter check for voltage
on the wires where they plug onto the sockets.</font><br clear=3D"none">
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Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 9:09 pm<br clear=3D"none">
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Hello All,
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<div>As you may know from my earlier post, by TR6 is alive and running beau=
tifully following an extensive engine rebuild that ended up taking a few ye=
ars, rather than the few months I had envisioned. Life and other important =
things interfered. Imagine that=E2=80=A6</div>
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<div>I=E2=80=99m now finishing up the final details and have encountered tw=
o issues, probably unrelated, that I need your help in diagnosing. </d=
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<div>First: Only my left turn signal works and the hazard light doesn=E2=80=
=99t work at all. </div>
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<div>Second: The back-up lights don=E2=80=99t work. I=E2=80=99ve installed =
a new back up light harness. I=E2=80=99ve tried to study the wiring diagram=
but can=E2=80=99t quite figure out how the 3 wires connect to the main har=
ness=E2=80=99 3 bullet connectors in the passenger foot well area. I can
see that two of the new harness wires are solid green and the other has a =
?red? thread. The main harness wires are almost impossible to discern which=
are solid and which has a different color thread.</div>
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<div>Can anyone help me sort out these issues?</div>
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<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>Bob Fabie</div>
<div>Fredericksburg, VA</div>
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