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Re: [RE: Jumping third]

To: Jan Eyerman <jan.eyerman@usa.net>
Subject: Re: [RE: Jumping third]
From: Alex McGregor <awmcgregor@shaw.ca>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 21:04:35 -0600
I have a 59 Minx with column shift.  It likes to fall out of 3rd gear.  The
synchro seems alright, certainly does no grinding, but it howls like a cat in 
heat
in 1st and reverse.

Jan Eyerman wrote:

> Old Model A Fords used to pop out of top (3rd) gear when the transmission was
> worn, so many drivers often drove with their hand resting on the gearshift
> lever.
>
> Interesting, I have never heard of a column shift car popping out of gear when
> the trans was worn... I wonder if all of that linkage resisted the movement.
>
> Jan Eyerman (who just converted a '62 Hillman fron column shift to floor
> shift)
>
> Jarrid Gross <JGross@econolite.com> wrote:
> Larry
>
> I actually raced my car once with the transmision in this exact state.
> I had to hold the gear lever in the third position when decelerating to
> prvent it from popping out.  My hands were very busy that day.
>
> Jarrid
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lauri lehtinen [mailto:lauri.lehtinen@pp.nic.fi]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:04 AM
> To: Jarrid Gross
> Cc: Alpine
> Subject: Re: Jumping third
>
> > Larry,
> >
> > Jumping third means there is a bent third/fourth
> > shifter fork.  Also the third gear might have
> > severe wear on the dog clutch.
> >
> > Jarrid
>
> thanks again, Jarrid.
> For me this sounds to suit very well to the sickness, because there is odd
> whirll if sift lever is pushed too much when shifting to 3rd. There are no
> difficulties or noise when shifting any gear, so synchro rings seem to be
> ok. And yes, all dogs and synchro teeth were ok as long as I could see
> between the shifter safts and forks. I tried to check them without
> dismanteling the box.
>
> BTW you learn very quick to avoid motor braking with 3rd. Even then when it
> jumps off only about every 10th time...
>
> Larry

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