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Re: What temp should I expect

To: Kurt Eckert <kurt@kurteckert.com>
Subject: Re: What temp should I expect
From: eric <efunk@peoriasiding.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 08:16:39 -0500
Dumb question..........have you checked the timing? Without a long, blow hard
dialogue, been there done that.

Kurt Eckert wrote:

> I was not planning on running the car for any period of time without the
> thermostat in the engine. This was a test to see if the thermostat was the
> culprit in the overheating problem. It is not, so I need to look in other
> areas. It is not likely that it is a clogged black as it is a brand new
> engine that was completely cleaned and blueprinted. I saw the engine before
> it was put back together and it was a high quality rebuild. I have exhausted
> the tests that I am capable of doing so I am going to bring it to the shop
> and have a pro look it it.
>
> Kurt
>
> On 9/7/03 9:15 PM, "Louis & Laila" <bwana@c2i2.com> wrote:
>
> > Don't run a car without a thermostat, it will ruin it. The reason for this
> > is the heat capacity for water. It is more immune to temp fluctuations and
> > absorbtion than iron. Therefore, if you take the thermostat out, the water
> > flows through the block quickly, failing to absorb heat. It is then takne to
> > the rad where it loses heat. Your block is now operating at a higher
> > temperature than your guage is reading, while your water isn't cooling it
> > down as much as it should. Having personaly ruined a Tiger motor doing just
> > this, I am speaking from experieince. Most Alpine heating problems are due
> > to a clogged block. Pull the freeze plugs, and use some acid to disolve it,
> > use a coat hanger or other probe, and flush it out.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kurt Eckert" <kurt@kurteckert.com>
> > To: "Alpine folks" <alpines@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 5:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: What temp should I expect
> >
> >
> >> Well I ran the car today without a thermostat and ran into the same
> > problem.
> >> I guess it is time to start looking deeper into the engine as a problem.
> >>
> >> Kurt
> >>
> >> On 9/4/03 5:35 PM, "Thomas Wiencek" <wiencek@anl.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Please tell us what you find.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-alpines@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-alpines@autox.team.net]
> >>> On Behalf Of Kurt Eckert
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:08 AM
> >>> To: Alpine folks
> >>> Subject: Re: What temp should I expect
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the info,
> >>>
> >>> It is a complete rebuild done by Bob "Herbeam" Willis and Smitty's of
> >>> San
> >>> Diego a few years ago. It has less then 150 miles on it after the
> >>> rebuild.
> >>> So effectively it is a new engine. I am going to pull out the thermostat
> >>> and
> >>> try running it without that to see if that might be causing the problem.
> >>> If
> >>> that is not it then I will check to see if I have any combustion gases
> >>> in
> >>> the water system. I really hope not. :(
> >>>
> >>> Kurt
> >>>
> >>> On 9/3/03 1:09 AM, "jumpinjan" <jservaites@woh.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Kurt Eckert wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have been having a problem with my 3GT overheating and attributed
> >>> it to
> >>>>> the 40 year old radiator. Well I got my radiator back from being
> >>> re-cored
> >>>>> with a modern 3 core setup and I am still getting steam coming out
> >>> from
> >>>>> under the hood after a few minutes of driving. What sort of temp
> >>> should I
> >>>>> expect?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you get steam after a few minutes of driving, then it's not the
> >>>> radiator. I have never seen any problems with the water pump
> >>> overheating
> >>>> the engine. I suspect some deeper problems like head gasket failure
> >>>> and/or sediment build up in the block. How long has it been since the
> >>>> last engine rebuild?
> >>>> Jan

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