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RE: Poor, poor tires..

To: "Jake Hodges" <jake_hodges@hotmail.com>, <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Poor, poor tires..
From: "Vitaly Iourtchenko" <vitaly@nuance.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:16:15 -0700
Any idea what your front camber and toe are?

I used to autocross on the AVSi's, and didn't have a
problem with the outside wearing off. Got a picture
of the wear? 50psi front sounds a bit high.

If you do a season of autocrosses and drive on the
street, AVSi's are good for about 12-13k miles. That's
what I got out of my first set. Again, I didn't see the
outside wearing faster than the inside, and ran them
well into the indicator bars. Btw, AVSi's are now
discontinued :(

> Finally, people say they get a season of use out
> of race rubber on a light(ish) car like mine.  Is
> this a function of some magical property of 
> race tires, or are these other drivers on crack?

The del Sol is extremely heavy for a car it's size,
yet I've got well over a season out of my Kumhos (and
that's with two drivers!). If your car is aligned
right, you should be able to do well with regard to
tire wear.

Vitaly
ex-CSP #87 del Sol

-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Hodges [mailto:jake_hodges@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:52 PM
To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Poor, poor tires..


Novice autocrosser here, and one on a college student's budget.

For my birthday, a friend got me a set of very nice tires.  That was
three 
autocross events ago... Just 12-15 runs.  I run 48-50 psi front and 38
rear 
in my Yokohama AVS Intermediates on a '95 Honda del Sol.  My chalk marks

don't scrub off of the sidewalls at all beyond where the tread blocks
merge 
with the sidewalls.

Questions:

I know these tires are soft, but my front tires are almost totally
rounded 
off on the outsides after just three events.  What can I do to minimize 
this?  Driving? Pressure?  Voodoo hex?

When do they wear too far?  When are they no longer safe to use on the 
street?  Or should I just not worry about it?

Can the tires be turned around on the rims to present a new square edge
on 
the outside without hurting anything?

If this really is the rate that I'm going to go through tires, should I
just 
leave the only reasonably rounded rear tires on the back and nuke the
hell 
out of the front ones, replacing them at a shorter interval?  Or will I
get 
more net tire life if I rotate them after every event?

Finally, people say they get a season of use out of race rubber on a 
light(ish) car like mine.  Is this a function of some magical property
of 
race tires, or are these other drivers on crack?

Oh!  And one more thing.. A guy in one of my classes said saw what he 
thought was an autocross in San Jose last weekend near the corner of 7th
and 
Tully..  Anyone know what that is?

Thanks all.

Jake



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