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RE: faulty parts alert

To: millerb@ivwnet.com, fot@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: faulty parts alert
From: "andrew stark" <whitedog72@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 13:39:38 +0000
You have to watch just about anything from Moss or Vicky Brit. when it comes 
to hardware. There prices are highway robbery and the quality is very 
suspect. 90% of the time I head to my local old fashion Nappa store and buy 
the highest grade possible at a 1/4 of the cost of mail order. Never have 
broken a bolt or stud and don't plan to risk doing so on no name mailorder 
hardware in the future.
If you live in a town that has any aircraft manufaturing going on I would 
suggest that you find out who they sell their excess hardware to when they 
rotate or delete fastener stock. I pick up alot of Boeing hardware at the 
local scrap metal dealer down the street. It seems most Aircraft companies 
pull stock and sell it for scrap if it has not been used in 18 months. Some 
sort of ISO 9000 requirement. I get very cheap titanium hardware this way. A 
plus is that it is all SAE english threads.
                           Andrew Stark
                           72 EP Gt-6




>From: "Bill Miller" <millerb@ivwnet.com>
>Reply-To: "Bill Miller" <millerb@ivwnet.com>
>To: "Jack W. Drews" <vinttr4@geneseo.net>, <fot@autox.team.net>,   
><triumphs@autox.team.net>
>Subject: RE: faulty parts alert
>Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:09:01 -0500
>
>On the same vein, I bought studs from a vary reputable vendor who resells
>Moss (some of the packages had moss p/n).  I broke one head stud (at 35 ft
>lbs) and actually pulled the threads off 3 manifold studs at 20 ft/lbs!!!!
>
>If you get those pretty copper coloured manifold studs from Moss, I 
>wouldn't
>use them.  I buying all new from ARP as soon as I can afford it.  I believe
>the head stud may have be a fluke.  I studied it after failure and it
>appears that the threads were damaged were the nut stopped, causing me to
>twist it off, and all the rest torqued down properly.  However, the 
>manifold
>studs are not good quality at all.
>
>First time I've ever had problems from Moss, and they may not be aware of
>the problem.  I plan on calling them and giving them a heads up Friday.
>
>Yes, I have a good calibrated torque wrench, and yes, the studs were
>properly lubricated.
>
>Bill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Today I assembled an engine with lots of new parts including camshaft
>and tappets. When I adjusted the valves, three of the pushrods seemed
>"short". The adjusting screws of those three had to be screwed in much
>further than the rest of them. After hours of searching for the cause, I
>found that the new tappetts from Moss, part #838-250, varied in the
>depth of the bore in which the pushrod sets. Five of them had a "foot
>thickness" of 1/4" -- but three of them were only 1/16" thick at the
>bottom!!!!! A sure path to failure and lots of mischief inside the
>engine.
>
>If anyone has purchased these recently, better check them!




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