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Re: Roll bars in TR6s

To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Roll bars in TR6s
From: elliottd <elliott@videotron.ca>
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 07:51:48 -0500
At Mid-Ohio in 2002, did you notice that Jon Wood of England who was driving
Keith Files red TR6 had removed the hardtop from the TR6 for all the
practices and the races.  Therefore the roll bar was fitted inside the hard
top.

I'm not sure whether the Brits run hard-tops for better aerodynamics or
because of the rainy weather at many race events "cross the pond".

Don Elliott, 1958 TR3A, Montreal, Canada

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com>
To: "SHANE Ingate" <hottr6@hotmail.com>; <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Roll bars in TR6s


> Shane, I can't directly answer your question, since I'm less familiar with
> the factory TR-6 hard top.  However, I have some experience with the
surrey
> top and the roll bar fitment for it.  As I recall, the TR-6 hard top is
> flatter on top than the surrey top, allowing the roll bar to be positioned
> a bit further back in the passenger compartment.  The surrey top prevents
> the roll bar from being the 2" or so above the drivers helmet that is
> highly desirable.  The rear section of the surrey top reaches maximum
> height just behind the door openings.  The causes you to have to place the
> roll bar more forward in the passenger compartment that you might want.
In
> our case, it pushed the drivers seat a bit too close to the dash for uncle
> jack's comfort.  I would imagine the height to be similar between the two
> tops.  Hope this helps...
>
> Here's a picture showing the roll bar's position fore-aft:
> http://www.tonydrews.com/ChrisTouring.jpg and a nice side shot at
> http://www.tonydrews.com/SpeedvisionPhoto.jpg
>
> I believe that top speed is better with the hard top fitted.  However, we
> abandoned it so that we could fit a roll bar further back and of a more
> safe height (after removing the hard top in a triple barrel roll).  My
> personal preference is for the open car with a taller roll bar, but I
> noticed at Mid-Ohio that the (VERY fast) gents from England generally run
> the hard top, presumably for the better aerodynamics.  We've never had a
> vintage racing organization make a point of checking the roll bar height.
>
> Incidentally, TR-6 stock rear axles and hubs tend to break under racing
> stress much like the TR-4 axles do.  I would recommend an uprated set of
> axles / hubs (if you haven't already considered this) to avoid testing the
> roll bar.
>
> - Tony Drews
>
> At 06:23 AM 1/31/2004, SHANE Ingate wrote:
> >All,
> >
> >In preparing my car for Solo II Street Modified, my cage must fit inside
> >the bodywork.
> >I intend to run with the factory hardtop, so clearly the rear hoop will
> >not clear my
> >helmet by 2", rendering me ineligible for "trading paint" type
> >events.  Just as well, too,
> >'cuz I'm not that brave.
> >
> >At some stage down the line, I'd like to find and fit a Surrey/Targa top
> >from the TR4/5/250
> >to the TR6.  I am hoping that someone reading this can tell me if the
rear
> >hoop which
> >will be built to fit tightly within the factory steel hardtop, will also
> >fit inside the
> >Surrey top.
> >
> >Anyone have a Surrey/Targa top they could part with?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Shane Ingate, not topless in Maryland
> >
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