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I have also been using Tilton and Quartermaster clutches for over 10 yea=
rs. I tried the single disc version for a couple of seasons, but found =
cracks in the friction disc, so I went back to the double disc this year=
. The single disc is rated for over 200 ft-lbs of torque. My car shoul=
d be in the 170 ft-lb range, but I guess that was too much? (I am sure t=
hat 9 inch slicks don't help the situation either) If someone has a low=
hp TR3/4 I have a very nice single disc Tilton clutch unit that I do no=
t need any more. Joe(B)
-- "Don Marshall" <ofbracing@nefcom.net> wrote:
My experience with the Tilton has been the same as Johns, no problems. =
It came with the car and is probably the original setup from when Jack W=
heeler had it. Don
=
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From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On =
Behalf Of John Reed
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:46 AM
To: Joe N197TR4; henry@henryfrye.com; lfritz82@hotmail.com; fot@autox.te=
am.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] LUK clutches
=
I=92ve been using a Tilton setup for over 20 years with no problems. It =
is a dual disk that came as a package set with the flywheel. The pressur=
e plates and flywheel have little #1s stamped on them for proper assembl=
y. Very nice, probably the nicest thing on my car. I replace the disks e=
very 5 or 6 years if they need it or not. Even when I switched to a 240z=
trans. all I had to do was change to 9 spline disks.
On 8/27/08 9:12 AM, "N197TR4@cs.com" <N197TR4@cs.com> wrote:
FoT, =
No surprise, but in the past few years the low volume stuff has been far=
med out to low cost suppliers. Including LuK. My clutch friends say th=
at this business has changed consderable. You wont know what you are get=
ting, regardless of the label. =
One of the businesses I got involved with John Deere was remanufactured =
clutch components. It doesnt make me an expert on the design of clutches=
, but it gave me some good insight in the business side. =
Rebuilding a good old unit is preferable and the materials are frequentl=
y superior. Same goes for discs. I just provided one for a TR3 and ot h=
ad apparently superior friction materials and all of the springs replace=
d. =
But now there may be a forthcoming shortage of these materials. ..... =
Henry, If you still have that core, I'll see what I can do. It may end =
up being better than new and far less expensive. Nothing will happen unt=
il this winter, but I am sure that is OK with you. =
Joe A =
There have been at least 3 LuK clutch pressure plate failures in racers =
=
that I can document this year. All were about 5 years of racing use. =
Look at the 3 metal straps that hold the part that engages the friction =
=
disk to the outer shell. Mine broke at the rivet and would not =
disengage. Leo's developed a nasty vibration. Tony's started slipping. =
Also George's Borg and Beck failed, throwing a little chunk that could =
not escape the bellhousing until it made a hole big enough to escape. =
Scratch that gearbox case... =
There have been way too many gearbox pulls in the paddock this season =
because of clutches... Also having a new clutch kit ready to go in the =
race spares is a very good idea. =
=
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<html>I have also been using Tilton and Quartermaster clutches for over =
10 years. I tried the single disc version for a couple of seasons,=
but found cracks in the friction disc, so I went back to the double dis=
c this year. The single disc is rated for over 200 ft-lbs of torqu=
e. My car should be in the 170 ft-lb range, but I guess that was t=
oo much? (I am sure that 9 inch slicks don't help the situation eit=
her) If someone has a low hp TR3/4 I have a very nice single disc =
Tilton clutch unit that I do not need any more. Joe(B)<BR><BR>-- "=
Don Marshall" <ofbracing@nefcom.net> wrote:<BR>
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3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">My experience with the T=
ilton has been the same as </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN style=
=3D"COLOR: black">John</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"C=
OLOR: black">s, no problems. It came with the car and is probably =
the original setup from when Jack Wheeler had it. Don</SPAN></FONT=
></P>
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3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT></P>=
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SI=
ZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN st=
yle=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> fot-bounces@autox.team.net [m=
ailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">O=
n Behalf Of </SPAN></B>John Reed<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold"=
>Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:46 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Joe N197TR4; henry@henryfrye.com; lfr=
itz82@hotmail.com; fot@autox.team.net<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Fot] LUK clutches</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=3DVerdana =
size=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I=92ve bee=
n using a Tilton setup for over 20 years with no problems. It is a dual =
disk that came as a package set with the flywheel. The pressure plates a=
nd flywheel have little #1s stamped on them for proper assembly. Very ni=
ce, probably the nicest thing on my car. I replace the disks every 5 or =
6 years if they need it or not. Even when I switched to a 240z trans. al=
l I had to do was change to 9 spline disks.<BR><BR><BR>On 8/27/08 9:12 A=
M, "N197TR4@cs.com" <N197TR4@cs.com> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=3DArial si=
ze=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">FoT, <BR><BR>N=
o surprise, but in the past few years the low volume stuff has been farm=
ed out to low cost suppliers. Including LuK. My clutch frien=
ds say that this business has changed consderable. You wont know what yo=
u are getting, regardless of the label. <BR><BR>One of the businesses I =
got involved with John Deere was remanufactured clutch components. It do=
esnt make me an expert on the design of clutches, but it gave me some go=
od insight in the business side. <BR><BR>Rebuilding a good old unit is p=
referable and the materials are frequently superior. Same goes for discs=
. I just provided one for a TR3 and ot had apparently superior fri=
ction materials and all of the springs replaced. <BR><BR>But=
now there may be a forthcoming shortage of these materials. ..... <BR><=
BR>Henry, If you still have that core, I'll see what I can do. It =
may end up being better than new and far less expensive. Nothing will ha=
ppen until this winter, but I am sure that is OK with you. <BR><BR>Joe A=
<BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=3DArial si=
ze=3D1><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There have bee=
n at least 3 LuK clutch pressure plate failures in racers <BR>that I can=
document this year. All were about 5 years of racing use. <BR>Look at t=
he 3 metal straps that hold the part that engages the friction <BR>disk =
to the outer shell. Mine broke at the rivet and would not <BR>disengage.=
Leo's developed a nasty vibration. Tony's started slipping. <BR><BR>Als=
o George's Borg and Beck failed, throwing a little chunk that could <BR>=
not escape the bellhousing until it made a hole big enough to escape. <B=
R>Scratch that gearbox case... <BR><BR>There have been way too many gear=
box pulls in the paddock this season <BR>because of clutches... Also hav=
ing a new clutch kit ready to go in the <BR>race spares is a very good i=
dea. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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