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Re: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race

To: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Nuerburgring Nordschleife 400 km race
From: Bill Babcock <Billb@bnj.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:55:55 -0700
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Wow, that sounds like a pretty cool weekend to me. What kind of tool =20
did the hotelier devise--that sounds impossible! The only way I know =20
to get the long studs out when they break at the bottom is to make a =20
pilot bushing to center a drill onto the broken stud, use a long =20
(jobber length) drill bit to drill a hole in the stud, weld an easy-=20
out to a drill rod and weld a T-bar onto the other end, insert the =20
easy out and pray while you turn. All that takes several hours.

Where do I find a hotelier like that?

On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:10 PM, MadMarx wrote:

> I really hate to tell you that it wasn=92t a successful weekend for =
me.
>
> At first practice one of the clutches slipped (gearbox or OD), the =20
> engine went hot at full throttle and forced out water, the new =20
> starter motor failed.
> I replaced the head gasket and while torquing  up the head nuts nut =20=

> #5 jumped one thread over. The threads were gone on that part.
> I drove 200mls to get a new head stud, torqued it up and - BANG =96 =20=

> the stud snapped at the lower thread. It was one of the long head =20
> studs.
> Now the thread was burried down in the block. End of race =96 I =20
> thought but after I told my hotelier about the misfit he invented a =20=

> head stud extractor while I had breakfast. With that tool it took 10 =20=

> minutes to get that thread part out.
> I recycled my old head stud, used 3 washers to reposition a new nut =20=

> on a different part of the threat and was able to torque it up.
> Now the car was ready to race, temperature was fine at full =20
> throttle, the car went uphill 133mph at 6000 rpm in overdrive! The =20
> car was smoking a lot from the scuffed pistons which all 4 are =20
> scuffed, not only two as I thought.
> The balance felt great and I was starting from behind and overtook =20
> about 15 cars in one lap.
> Then a Healy driver pointed at my car and shouted that there is =20
> something wrong with my car. I stopped racing and had a look at the =20=

> engine.
> A half a liter water was forced out =96 nothing else. Might have been =20=

> a trick to stop me because I did overtake him several times.
> But after the whole field had passed me I retired and went to the =20
> pits.
>
> I suppose that the water pump is spinning too fast at 6000 and start =20=

> cavitating which cause the water loss.
> But the one race lap I did was fun  but not what I wanted =96 I wanted =
=20
> to be more in front.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
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<html><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Wow, that sounds like a pretty =
cool weekend to me. What kind of tool did the hotelier devise--that =
sounds impossible! The only way I know to get the long studs out when =
they break at the bottom is to make a pilot bushing to center a drill =
onto the broken stud, use a long (jobber length) drill bit to drill a =
hole in the stud, weld an easy-out to a drill rod and weld a T-bar onto =
the other end, insert the easy out and pray while you turn. All that =
takes several hours.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Where do I find a hotelier =
like that?&nbsp;</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 1, 2008, at 10:10 PM, =
MadMarx wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
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auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div bgcolor=3D"white" lang=3D"DE" =
link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; "><div =
class=3D"Section1"><blockquote style=3D"border-top-style: none; =
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3.75pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I really =
hate to tell you that it wasn=92t a successful weekend for =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: =
0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">At first =
practice one of the clutches slipped (gearbox or OD), the engine went =
hot at full throttle and forced out water, the new starter motor =
failed.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I replaced the head gasket and while torquing =
&nbsp;up the head nuts nut #5 jumped one thread over. The threads were =
gone on that part.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I drove 200mls to get a new head stud, torqued it up =
and - BANG =96 the stud snapped at the lower thread. It was one of the =
long head studs.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Now the thread was burried down in the block. End of =
race =96 I thought but after I told my hotelier about the misfit he =
invented a head stud extractor while I had breakfast. With that tool it =
took 10 minutes to get that thread part out.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I recycled =
my old head stud, used 3 washers to reposition a new nut on a different =
part of the threat and was able to torque it =
up.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: =
0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Now the car was ready to race, temperature was fine =
at full throttle, the car went uphill 133mph at 6000 rpm in overdrive! =
The car was smoking a lot from the scuffed pistons which all 4 are =
scuffed, not only two as I thought.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The balance =
felt great and I was starting from behind and overtook about 15 cars in =
one lap.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Then a Healy driver pointed at my car and shouted =
that there is something wrong with my car. I stopped racing and had a =
look at the engine.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">A half a liter water was forced =
out =96 nothing else. Might have been a trick to stop me because I did =
overtake him several times.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">But after =
the whole field had passed me I retired and went to the =
pits.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I suppose =
that the water pump is spinning too fast at 6000 and start cavitating =
which cause the water loss.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">But the one =
race lap I did was fun&nbsp; but not what I wanted =96 I wanted to be =
more in front.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
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