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To: "TR4Tony" <tr4.tony@virgin.net>, "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>,
Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars
From: "Stutzman" <stutzmans@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:00:23 -0500
Tony,
To get rid of axle tramp without track rods, try Carroll Smith's method - 
TUNE TO WIN page 157.
Turn the front half of the leaf springs into track rods by tightly clamping 
them together.  I did and it works.
Bruce
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "TR4Tony" <tr4.tony@virgin.net>
To: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>; "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>
Cc: <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; <fot@autox.team.net>; <fubog1@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars


> Hi all ..... just a little more experience on this, echoing what Kas has 
> said on testing and getting it right.
>
> Ive just fitted some deeper springs to give some extra ride height, but 
> the side effect is additional stiffness which is making the car very 
> bouncy at the rear .... and very hard to control on thr rough, better on 
> smooth tarmac. Even my twin valve adjustable DAS9 Armstrong shocks dont 
> seem able to cope ...... which may be a function of the piston size. Maybe 
> its time to try the MGB type DAS 10's ? Im also running around with 100kg 
> of sand in the boot to try to get the springs to settle down a little, and 
> coating the leaves with PTFE to get them to move better.
>
> If it works out ill pass on the knowledge and the settings on Beasty .... 
> currently if my softer rear springs didnt have a habit of winding up and 
> bending / twisting on full throttle id stick with them, but my failure 
> rate is way too high to live with at the moment.
>
> Best regards
>
> Tony
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>
> To: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>
> Cc: <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; <fot@autox.team.net>; <fubog1@aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars
>
>
>>I know, Kas, you've seen how soft Peyote's rear suspension is. When I  was 
>>setting the car up I found the softer the rear end was the better  the car 
>>stuck. I think part of that is  Armstrong shocks provide so  little 
>>damping control a soft spring is necessary. I tried stiffer  rear springs 
>>but it made the car almost uncontrollable. The front end  would understeer 
>>while the back end stepped out as if it was  oversteering. I went as soft 
>>as I dared with the rear spring, you can  hit the stops by standing in the 
>>seat and bouncing. Works great.
>> On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:57 AM, Kas Kastner wrote:
>>
>>> Stiffening the rear suspension on a beam axle car is a delicate 
>>> situation as you have no provision for negative camber (well, yes  you 
>>> can, but tapering axle splines, bending the housing and all that  is a 
>>> chore) and thus getting bite on the rear suspension is  generally 
>>> making it softer not harder which a rear bar will do.   There are a 
>>> couple of fellows that have done this rear bar mod and  been very 
>>> successful, but it does take a bunch of testing to get it  right. 
>>> Dearching the rear springs is a start, then having the rear  bar 
>>> adjustable can give a few more options in handling for various  courses.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <fubog1@aol.com>
>>> To: <BillDentin@aol.com>; <lang@isis.mit.edu>; <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
>>> Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:38 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars
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