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PJ,
I can=E2=80=99t find the web link at the moment but several times I have =
installed 3-point harnesses in street-driven Morgans. These have a =
metal buckle, similar to what you see used on an airline seat but wider. =
The last two sets I installed had an adjustment strap at the buckle and =
another at the aft end of the shoulder harness (the male part of the =
buckle can be slid along the strap that serves both as shoulder strap =
and as part of the lap belt). I found these with a Google search in the =
past. You might find them in an online aircraft parts catalog such as =
Wicks or Aircraft Spruce and Specialty =E2=80=94 if looking in an =
aircraft catalog search for the ones without an STC (supplemental type =
certificate) since they cost a lot more but are not necessarily better =
for your needs. =20
Duncan
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Really John?? What period was that ?
> I was fine with just a lap belt for a track day but in order to do =
another their telling me I need to have at least a shoulder restraint =
added. Does anyone make a good quality three point system that will =
fit our cars?
> As for a roll cage I completely understand the need and function but =
I have decided not to go much farther with performance upgrades to this =
car. I just feel like it's too nice to chop all up and make a race car. =
I'd much rather buy a car that has been raced or one which is in need of =
restoration that I won't feel bad about chopping up a bit. Prefer GT6 =
but I am considering a TR6 also. Anything out there??
> P.J.
>=20
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:00 PM, John Hasty <jhasty@mhc-law.com =
> With no roll bar you should consider the period technique... One lap =
belt for you and another on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you =
flip you can lay down across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt =
and hold on!!!!!
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:35 PM, "McKearn McKearn" <mckearn2@gmail.com =
>=20
> Hi.
> Thanks for the replies. I'm thinking a four or five point restraint =
is what I want but getting the attachment points for the shoulder belts =
might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment bracket =
between the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I would =
call the rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area behind =
the seat is that currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I put =
behind the seat. I thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 wall =
thickness would be more than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye bolts to =
it through the carpet as attachment points. That way only the eye bolts =
and the belts will be visible from above. Any thoughts?
> P.J.
>=20
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond =
<alfetta95@optonline.net =
> Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind =
the drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. =
Location is important. Can't be too sharp an angle. I've done this in =
several street/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars =
were hidden under the rear seat. Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness =
with snap in attachments. U are good to go. If u want to add the 5th =
hook for the anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a 5 =
pt harness.
>=20
> Thanks
> Todd Redmond
>=20
> > On Aug 14, 2015, at 11:23 PM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com =
> >
> > Hi All.
> > I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 GT6, the tech =
inspector let it slide but told me for the next track day I need to =
improve) but with it being mostly a street car with no roll bar I'm =
limited. Any suggestions?
> > Thanks. P.J.
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class=3D"">PJ,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">I can=E2=80=99=
t find the web link at the moment but several times I have installed =
3-point harnesses in street-driven Morgans. These have a metal =
buckle, similar to what you see used on an airline seat but wider. =
The last two sets I installed had an adjustment strap at the =
buckle and another at the aft end of the shoulder harness (the male part =
of the buckle can be slid along the strap that serves both as shoulder =
strap and as part of the lap belt). I found these with a Google search =
in the past. You might find them in an online aircraft parts =
catalog such as Wicks or Aircraft Spruce and Specialty =E2=80=94 if =
looking in an aircraft catalog search for the ones without an STC =
(supplemental type certificate) since they cost a lot more but are not =
necessarily better for your needs. </div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Duncan</div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, McKearn McKearn <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; class=3D"">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Really John?? What period was =
that ? </div><div class=3D""> I was fine with just a lap belt =
for a track day but in order to do another their telling me I =
need to have at least a shoulder restraint added. Does =
anyone make a good quality three point system that will fit our =
cars?</div><div class=3D""> As for a roll cage I completely =
understand the need and function but I have decided not to go much =
farther with performance upgrades to this car. I just feel like it's too =
nice to chop all up and make a race car. I'd much rather buy a car that =
has been raced or one which is in need of restoration that I won't feel =
bad about chopping up a bit. Prefer GT6 but I am considering a TR6 also. =
Anything out there??</div><div =
class=3D""> &nb=
sp; =
P.J.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:00 PM, John Hasty <span =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><<a href=3D"mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">jhasty@mhc-law.com</a>></span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">With no roll bar you =
should consider the period technique... One lap belt for you and another =
on the passenger seat tightly drawn so when you flip you can lay down =
across the seats and grab the passenger lap belt and hold on!!!!!<br =
class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Sent from my iPhone<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:35 PM, "McKearn McKearn" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">mckearn2@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Hi.<br class=3D"">
Thanks for the replies. I'm thinking a four or five point =
restraint is what I want but getting the attachment points for the =
shoulder belts might be tough. I am considering welding in an attachment =
bracket between the rear fenderwells and keeping it hidden below what I =
would call the rear seat top or cubby hole top or whatever that area =
behind the seat is that currently is carpeted and hides all the junk I =
put behind the seat. I thought 1.5 or 2.0 inch steel tubing with .125 =
wall thickness would be more than plenty and then screwing 7/16 eye =
bolts to it through the carpet as attachment points. That way only the =
eye bolts and the belts will be visible from above. Any thoughts?<br =
class=3D"">
=
P.J.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Todd Redmond <<a =
href=3D"mailto:alfetta95@optonline.net"; =
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Install grade 5 eye hook bolts. Two for the lap belt and two behind the =
drivers seat maybe on the rear bulkhead for the shoulder belts. Location =
is important. Can't be too sharp an angle. I've done this in several =
street/track cars. They work great. The rear hooks on my cars were =
hidden under the rear seat. Then buy yourself a new 4 pt harness =
with snap in attachments. U are good to go. If u want to add the =
5th hook for the anti submarine strap under ur seat, go ahead then get a =
5 pt harness.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Thanks<br class=3D"">
Todd Redmond<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
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href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; =
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href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">mckearn2@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class=3D"">
><br class=3D"">
> Hi All.<br class=3D"">
> I'm looking to upgrade my stock seat belts(68 =
GT6, the tech inspector let it slide but told me for the next =
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