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Re: [Fot] TR3 front end conversion to TR6 parts: Camber - moving the bal

To: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end conversion to TR6 parts: Camber - moving the ball joint inward
From: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 06:36:56 -0400
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Jack, if you are going to do this conversion you will also need to acquire
the later model lower control arms (or modify your lower control arms if
possible) because the trunnion assembly for a TR6 uses a thru bolt and not
the shaft type on the earlier TRs.  You will also need to retrofit the
inner lower control arm bushings from the later model onto the TR3 mounting
points. Everything will bolt together.

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com> wrote:

> I am hoping to upgrade the front suspension on my (street/AutoX) TR3 this
> summer by changing out the upper A-arm, vertical link and trunnion to TR6
> parts.  I will use =E2=80=9Cthe=E2=80=9D Jag ball joint and shim it as re=
quired.  Due to
> the complexity of shortening the upper A-arm or moving the inner pivot
> point inward, I am considering welding an extension to the upper A-Arm ba=
ll
> joint mounting tabs on the inside to mount the ball joint further inward
> and produce a similar result to shortening the A-arm.  I have not removed
> my TR3 A-Arms yet, but it appears there is room to move the ball joint
> inward at least an inch in this way.  I know I can=E2=80=99t go as far as=
 those of
> you who have shortened the upper arms, but it seems like it could be a
> decent compromise.  I am concerned though, as this seems too easy.  None =
of
> you guys have done it. Instead you have shortening the upper arms which,
> from what I have read, is challenging, as is moving the inner pivot point
> and retaining substantial structure.
>
>
>
> So, the question is. . . . . . . Why is simply moving the ball joint
> further inboard not a good solution?  What am I missing?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Jack
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Jac=
k, if you are going to do this conversion you will also need to acquire the=
 later model lower control arms (or modify your lower control arms if possi=
ble) because the trunnion assembly for a TR6 uses a thru bolt and not the s=
haft type on the earlier TRs.=C2=A0 You will also need to retrofit the inne=
r lower control arm bushings from the later model onto the TR3 mounting poi=
nts. Everything will bolt together.=C2=A0<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Ja=
ck Brooks <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:JIBrooks@live.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">JIBrooks@live.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">I am hoping to upgrade the front suspension on my (s=
treet/AutoX) TR3 this summer by changing out the upper A-arm, vertical link=
 and trunnion to TR6 parts.=C2=A0 I will use =E2=80=9Cthe=E2=80=9D Jag ball=
 joint and shim it as required.=C2=A0 Due to the complexity of shortening t=
he upper A-arm or moving the inner pivot point inward, I am considering wel=
ding an extension to the upper A-Arm ball joint mounting tabs on the inside=
 to mount the ball joint further inward and produce a similar result to sho=
rtening the A-arm.=C2=A0 I have not removed my TR3 A-Arms yet, but it appea=
rs there is room to move the ball joint inward at least an inch in this way=
.=C2=A0 I know I can=E2=80=99t go as far as those of you who have shortened=
 the upper arms, but it seems like it could be a decent compromise.=C2=A0 I=
 am concerned though, as this seems too easy.=C2=A0 None of you guys have d=
one it. Instead you have shortening the upper arms which, from what I have =
read, is challenging, as is moving the inner pivot point and retaining subs=
tantial structure.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=
=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">So, the question is.=
 . . . . . . Why is simply moving the ball joint further inboard not a good=
 solution?=C2=A0 What am I missing?<br><br></span><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Thanks in advance,<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><fo=
nt color=3D"#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><span class=3D"=
HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">Jack<u></u><u></u></span></p></fo=
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