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Re: [Fot] Endurance TR6 at COTA

To: Bill Babcock <ponobill@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Endurance TR6 at COTA
From: Bob Kramer <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 22:00:02 -0500
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I'm guessing the four bosses will take a TR4A style IRS bracket. This looks l=
ike a worthy upgrade. We are going to add a pump and cooler for sure.=20

This time I think we had a more traditional pinion failure rather than heat r=
elated.  I felt it chunk something in the first hour of the event when it wa=
s still pretty cool. It later calmed down to the point other drivers said th=
ey didn't hear it.=20

I'll pull it and find out soon.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bill Babcock <ponobill@gmail.com> wrote:
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> See if you can find one of these diff covers. About three times the oil ca=
pacity and a heck of a lot more cooling. Fitting it might be a challenge, bu=
t it solved my frying diff problem completely. That and RedLine diff oil.  N=
o, I don=E2=80=99t remember where I got it. sorry. Maybe someone else knows w=
here they come from. As you can see by the empty bracket, I didtched my panh=
ard rod to run this thing. Subbed in the solid brass spring eyes and big was=
hers from Joe (I think, great memory) which keeps the axle centered almost a=
s well. .=20
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> <IMG_0453.jpg>
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>> On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:52 AM, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Just a quick update. We were beaten by equipment at approximately 1:30 ye=
sterday afternoon. Although certainly disappointed not to take the flag, we w=
ere all pretty proud of the old girl. She put in a solid 8 hours Friday and a=
nother 5.5 on Saturday.=20
>>=20
>> We were racing cars from the past two decades with a few exceptions. Out o=
f 100+ cars, there was a pair of 60s mustangs, an Opel with a LS motor and u=
s. Friday we finished 47th with 114 laps and yesterday 73 with 81 laps.  We w=
ere averaging 3:10s around the full F1 course. As a point of reference, the l=
eaders were running consistent 2:50s. A certain pair of drivers on our team w=
ere clipping close to 2 minute laps and both swore they weren't pushing too h=
ard, maybe.
>>=20
>> We were running with 18 month old 200 tried wear tires that had been flat=
 spotted at the last race. This became very noticeable at 100+ down the stra=
ights. We again limited RPMs to save the motor.  With a 3.7 rear end and no O=
D we were full speed about 1/2 into the straights.  This is where the leader=
s would pass us.
>>=20
>> Some of you recall last summer we raced this car with WRL in the June Tex=
as heat and had some issues with lower than desirable oil pressures and a di=
ff that boiling its juice.=20
>>=20
>> For the engine side of things:  This time around we installed an oil cool=
er and used VR1 full synthetic. Oil pressure at full tilt was 90+ all weeken=
d and 40-50 at idle at pit stops.  Problem solved. I am very impressed with s=
ynthetic motor oil. The oil still looks brand new after 13+ hours of racing.=
 I know from past endurance races with Dino oil, it would be pitch black and=
 stinky at this point.=20
>>=20
>> On the diff side (not so good):  after boiling the Dino based lubricant l=
ast summer, we opted to simply switch to synthetic. This seemed to be workin=
g on Friday as our diff catch can stayed dry. We had some terrible noises co=
ming from the rear end on Friday that we thought were hub bearings going out=
.  The hub bearings are still suspect and will require attention. But our mo=
re serious problem was heat in the diff. The diff puked at about 1:30 and ou=
r day was done.=20
>>=20
>> Last summer Keith mention his solution was a diff cooler and I think we w=
ill be heading down that path for the next endurance race. Who knows, we may=
 end up with a triumph that can go the distance, eventually.=20
>>=20
>> We were so close this time.
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> We finished the day strong. Only a brief stint in the garage to check so=
me bearings. Other than that, ran all day long in the Texas heat. Right now 4=
7th out 100+
>>>=20
>>> Notice the only hood down in the pic?
>>>=20
>>>=20
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>>> <IMG_0793.JPG>
>>>=20
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I'm guessing the four bosses will take=
 a TR4A style IRS bracket. This looks like a worthy upgrade. We are going to=
 add a pump and cooler for sure.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><=
br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">This time I think we had a more trad=
itional pinion failure rather than heat related. &nbsp;I felt it chunk somet=
hing in the first hour of the event when it was still pretty cool. It later c=
almed down to the point other drivers said they didn't hear it.&nbsp;</div><=
div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I'll p=
ull it and find out soon.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Aug 7,=
 2016, at 6:10 PM, Bill Babcock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ponobill@gmail.com";>po=
nobill@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dutf-8">See i=
f you can find one of these diff covers. About three times the oil capacity a=
nd a heck of a lot more cooling. Fitting it might be a challenge, but it sol=
ved my frying diff problem completely. That and RedLine diff oil. &nbsp;No, I=
 don=E2=80=99t remember where I got it. sorry. Maybe someone else knows wher=
e they come from. As you can see by the empty bracket, I didtched my panhard=
 rod to run this thing. Subbed in the solid brass spring eyes and big washer=
s from Joe (I think, great memory) which keeps the axle centered almost as w=
ell. .&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">&lt;IMG_045=
3.jpg&gt;<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""=
><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:52 AM, Greg Blake &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; class=3D"">gblake58tr3@icloud.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""=
><div class=3D"">Just a quick update. We were beaten by equipment at approxi=
mately 1:30 yesterday afternoon. Although certainly disappointed not to take=
 the flag, we were all pretty proud of the old girl. She put in a solid 8 ho=
urs Friday and another 5.5 on Saturday. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">We wer=
e racing cars from the past two decades with a few exceptions. Out of 100+ c=
ars, there was a pair of 60s mustangs, an Opel with a LS motor and us. Frida=
y we finished 47th with 114 laps and yesterday 73 with 81 laps. &nbsp;We wer=
e averaging 3:10s around the full F1 course. As a point of reference, the le=
aders were running consistent 2:50s. A certain pair of drivers on our team w=
ere clipping close to 2 minute laps and both swore they weren't pushing too h=
ard, maybe.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">We were running with 18 month old 2=
00 tried wear tires that had been flat spotted at the last race. This became=
 very noticeable at 100+ down the straights. We again limited RPMs to save t=
he motor. &nbsp;With a 3.7 rear end and no OD we were full speed about 1/2 i=
nto the straights. &nbsp;This is where the leaders would pass us.<br class=3D=
""><br class=3D"">Some of you recall last summer we raced this car with WRL i=
n the June Texas heat and had some issues with lower than desirable oil pres=
sures and a diff that boiling its juice. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">For t=
he engine side of things: &nbsp;This time around we installed an oil cooler a=
nd used VR1 full synthetic. Oil pressure at full tilt was 90+ all weekend an=
d 40-50 at idle at pit stops. &nbsp;Problem solved. I am very impressed with=
 synthetic motor oil. The oil still looks brand new after 13+ hours of racin=
g. I know from past endurance races with Dino oil, it would be pitch black a=
nd stinky at this point. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On the diff side (not=
 so good): &nbsp;after boiling the Dino based lubricant last summer, we opte=
d to simply switch to synthetic. This seemed to be working on Friday as our d=
iff catch can stayed dry. We had some terrible noises coming from the rear e=
nd on Friday that we thought were hub bearings going out. &nbsp;The hub bear=
ings are still suspect and will require attention. But our more serious prob=
lem was heat in the diff. The diff puked at about 1:30 and our day was done.=
 <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Last summer Keith mention his solution was a d=
iff cooler and I think we will be heading down that path for the next endura=
nce race. Who knows, we may end up with a triumph that can go the distance, e=
ventually. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">We were so close this time.<br clas=
s=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Aug 5, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Greg Blake &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; class=3D"">gblake58tr3@icloud.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">We finished the day strong. Only a=
 brief stint in the garage to check some bearings. Other than that, ran all d=
ay long in the Texas heat. Right now 47th out 100+<br class=3D""><br class=3D=
"">Notice the only hood down in the pic?<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br cl=
ass=3D""><br class=3D"">&lt;IMG_0793.JPG&gt;<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><b=
r class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<br class=3D"">______________=
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