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Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?

To: britcars@bellsouth.net, vfracing@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?
From: fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 13:45:58 +0000 (UTC)
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 Hell yeah to the accusump, ideally the engine never turns w/o oil pressure=
, from the very 1st start-up on.Barry good point about cooler drainage, or =
lack of.Re coolers in general, I have a simple test that I do if I question=
 the serviceability of a cooler, or if there's any chance at all of there b=
eing trash it.The test involves the heavy application of the pointy end of =
a chipping hammer directly to the center of the core.I have a 100% success =
rate.I consider coolers as routine replacement items, many engines are lost=
 due to "cleaned" but still dirty coolers being plumbed into them.Glen

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From: barry rosenberg <britcars@bellsouth.net>
To: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>; Phil Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018 8:27 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?

 Yes, filter first. But what I have run into on some customers cars is the =
way the cooler lines run. Most coolers are mounted with the fittings on top=
. This does not permit the cooler to drain and when you change your oil, th=
e cooler retains the old oil. You have to remove the cooler and at least on=
e line to drain the old oil out. Try to set your cooler a little high with =
the fitting on the bottom so it can self drain. Of course, this means you m=
ust pre-lube the engine before startup. I also set my cooler behind the rad=
iator and not in front. NASCAR experts say that the closer the oil and wate=
r temp are to each other, the better.=C2=A0

Barry
    On Monday, December 3, 2018, 8:02:15 AM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 Filter first. Keeps the crud out of the cooker. Coolers are hard to clean.=
 Good thought By Glen to replace the cooker on engine refreshing.=C2=A0With=
 a cooler in the system, also a good idea to prelube the engine with an Acc=
usump upon cold start. Oil cooler lines are long and may drain upon standin=
g a while.

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On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:02 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:


 I typically run an inspectable (Oberg) out of the engine before the cooler=
, and a second filter after the cooler.It may be overkill but it eliminates=
 the possibility of oil cooler trash getting in the engine.I also replace t=
he cooler @ every engine freshen-up.Glen
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From: Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>-To: FOT <fot@autox.team.net=
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Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018 2:51 am
Subject: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?

Listerati,

For those of you running a remote oil cooler and remote oil filter do you r=
un the hose coming OUT of the engine into the cooler first or the filter fi=
rst? Just wanted to see how and why (if there=E2=80=99s a reason) most run =
their lines.

Thanks
Bud
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<div> <font size=3D"2">Hell yeah to the accusump, ideally the engine never =
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<div><font size=3D"2">Barry good point about cooler drainage, or lack of.</=
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<div><font size=3D"2">Re coolers in general, I have a simple test that I do=
 if I question the serviceability of a cooler, or if there's any chance at =
all of there being trash it.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">The test involves the heavy application of the pointy=
 end of a chipping hammer directly to the center of the core.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">I have a 100% success rate.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">I consider coolers as routine replacement items, many=
 engines are lost due to "cleaned" but still dirty coolers being plumbed in=
to them.</font></div>

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<div>Yes, filter first. But what I have run into on some customers cars is =
the way the cooler lines run. Most coolers are mounted with the fittings on=
 top. This does not permit the cooler to drain and when you change your oil=
, the cooler retains the old oil. You have to remove the cooler and at leas=
t one line to drain the old oil out. Try to set your cooler a little high w=
ith the fitting on the bottom so it can self drain. Of course, this means y=
ou must pre-lube the engine before startup. I also set my cooler behind the=
 radiator and not in front. NASCAR experts say that the closer the oil and =
water temp are to each other, the better.&nbsp;</div>



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<div>Filter first. Keeps the crud out of the cooker. Coolers are hard to cl=
ean. Good thought By Glen to replace the cooker on engine refreshing.&nbsp;

<div>With a cooler in the system, also a good idea to prelube the engine wi=
th an Accusump upon cold start. Oil cooler lines are long and may drain upo=
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<div> <font size=3D"2">I typically run an inspectable (Oberg) out of the en=
gine before the cooler, and a second filter after the cooler.</font></div>





<div><font size=3D"2">It may be overkill but it eliminates the possibility =
of oil cooler trash getting in the engine.</font></div>





<div><font size=3D"2">I also replace the cooler @ every engine freshen-up.<=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">For those of you running a remote oil cooler and remote oi=
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