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To: Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel Cells
From: Harvey Kinnard via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 08:17:21 -0600
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I had a fuel cell built to fit/ replace the stock fuel tank in my Morgan +4 i=
n the mid 80s. It started leaking fuel or clogging the system, ?,  about 15-=
20 years later. We pulled it, shipped it back to mfg. , maybe fuel safe, and=
 they redid it. I wasn=E2=80=99t aware they ever failed but seems they recom=
mend a new bladder very 10 years, or maybe 5. In any case it was all done qu=
it well and reasonably.  I have always been pleased. Standard size cells are=
 maybe more practical and less expensive, though typically with less capacit=
y. Sorry for all the less than specific info. I have everything documented s=
omewhere if it would be important to anyone. Point is they will fail eventua=
lly. If you wait too long, it could happen at the track. If you live a charm=
ed life, it will just leak on the garage floor during the winter. You=E2=80=99=
ll smell gas, =E2=80=9Coh no!=E2=80=9D, and have plenty of time to address i=
t.
HK
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2019, at 11:25 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
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> I thought it was best to replace the original 1969 fuel bladder in the Spi=
tfire...
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> Found an 8 gallon ATL cell that fit right in the original can with minimal=
 modification...
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> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 7, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:
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>> I have a Fuel Safe Sportsman fuel cell.  I=E2=80=99d always been under th=
e impression that these things aged out.  My vintage organization does not r=
equire certification or date tags, however, unlike on seat belts.
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>> I called Fuel Safe, talked to a helpful tech, and he said if the bladder i=
sn=E2=80=99t leaking, if the foam isn=E2=80=99t breaking down and showing up=
 in the fuel filter, and the bladder is still flexible, no cracking, it coul=
d last for 20 years.
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>> It should be inspected, but they were not pushing to sell me a new one.  J=
ust saved $700 bucks.  Makes you wonder about the FIA language, should you b=
e planning to race in Europe:
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>> 2 FUEL BLADDER LIFETIME
>> No fuel bladders shall be used for more than 5 years after the date of ma=
nufacture, unless reinspected and recertified by the manufacturer at the end=
 of this 5 year period, for a supplementary period of up to 2 years after th=
e date of recertification not exceeding 7 years after the date of manufactur=
e.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I had a fuel cell built to fit/ replace the=
 stock fuel tank in my Morgan +4 in the mid 80s. It started leaking fuel or c=
logging the system, ?, &nbsp;about 15-20 years later.&nbsp;We pulled it, shi=
pped it back to mfg. , maybe fuel safe, and they redid it. I wasn=E2=80=99t a=
ware they ever failed but seems they recommend a new bladder very 10 years, o=
r maybe 5. In any case it was all done quit well and reasonably. &nbsp;I hav=
e always been pleased. Standard size cells are maybe more practical and less=
 expensive, though typically with less capacity. Sorry for all the less than=
 specific info. I have everything documented somewhere if it would be import=
ant to anyone. Point is they will fail eventually. If you wait too long, it c=
ould happen at the track. If you live a charmed life, it will just leak on t=
he garage floor during the winter. You=E2=80=99ll smell gas, =E2=80=9Coh no!=
=E2=80=9D, and have plenty of time to address it.<div>HK<br><div id=3D"Apple=
MailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On M=
ar 7, 2019, at 11:25 PM, Brad Eells via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.=
team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/ht=
ml; charset=3Dutf-8">I thought it was best to replace the original 1969 fuel=
 bladder in the Spitfire...<div><br></div><div>Found an 8 gallon ATL cell th=
at fit right in the original can with minimal modification...<br><br><div id=
=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Mar 7, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D=
"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">I have a Fuel Safe Spo=
rtsman fuel cell. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99d always been under the impression that th=
ese things aged out. &nbsp;My vintage organization does not require certific=
ation or date tags, however, unlike on seat belts.<div class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div class=3D"">I called Fuel Safe, talked to a helpful tech, and h=
e said if the bladder isn=E2=80=99t leaking, if the foam isn=E2=80=99t break=
ing down and showing up in the fuel filter, and the bladder is still flexibl=
e, no cracking, it could last for 20 years.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div class=3D"">It should be inspected, but they were not pushing t=
o sell me a new one. &nbsp;Just saved $700 bucks. &nbsp;Makes you wonder abo=
ut the FIA language, should you be planning to race in Europe:</div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><b style=3D"caret-color: rgb(34=
, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: &quot;Open Sans&quot;, sans-=
serif; font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">2 FUEL BLADDER LIFETIME</b><br style=3D"=
caret-color: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: &quot;Ope=
n Sans&quot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><i style=3D"caret-col=
or: rgb(34, 34, 34); color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: &quot;Open Sans&qu=
ot;, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">No fuel bladders shall be used=
 for more than 5 years after the date of manufacture, unless reinspected and=
 recertified by the manufacturer at the end of this 5 year period, for a sup=
plementary period of up to 2 years after the date of recertification not exc=
eeding 7 years after the date of manufacture.</i></div><div class=3D""><br c=
lass=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br cla=
ss=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><block=
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