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Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Re: Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR
From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 01:56:34 +0000 (UTC)
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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
 On=C2=A0Monday, September 30, 2019,=C2=A0TR3driver@ca.rr.com=C2=A0<TR3driv=
er@ca.rr.com>=C2=A0wrote:

Randall (et all)...
Does anyone know what happened to Ken's TRIUMPH TR2 car?=C2=A0 It was very =
special.
The way I understand it, he purchased it across the pond when he was statio=
ned there in the service.=C2=A0 I think that is how he got connected with e=
arly TRIUMPH competition parts connections, like Daryll Uprichards (sp?) an=
d Cox and Buckles.=C2=A0 It was a daily driver over there, and he shipped i=
t home when he was discharged.=C2=A0 I don't remember it being a Long Door,=
 but it was a low dash plate=C2=A0 number TR2, and he kept it in gorgeous c=
ondition.=C2=A0 It must have been tricked up some since TRIUMPH built it, b=
ecause he drag raced it in 'handicapped drag races', and it was a champion.=
=C2=A0 It used to beat the early Corvettes.=C2=A0 It had four ten inch alfi=
n aluminum brake drums, and these were by TRIUMPH (supposedly they only mad=
e fifty sets).=C2=A0 An Italian made 10" Alfin Drum was available "after ma=
rket", and Old Blue has two of those in the rear.
Can anyone remember Ken's close buddy (Art, I think...maybe not).=C2=A0 Sup=
er nice guy, but 180 degrees different than Ken.=C2=A0 Ken would talk a mil=
e a minute, and his friend would just stand there and smile.=C2=A0 But they=
 were great buddies.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: Randall <TR3driver@ca.rr.com>
To: 'Bill Dentinger' <billdentin@aol.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2019 10:33 am
Subject: RE: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR

I believe it was more local than Orange county; specifically Temple City CA
where he and Helen lived.=C2=A0 I know he served multiple terms on the city
council, and at least one or two as mayor.

I miss him too.=C2=A0 As is so often the case, I wish I had spent more time
listening to his stories.

-- Randall=20
56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild=20

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of=20
> Bill Dentinger via Fot
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 8:17 AM
> To: stutztr4@gmail.com; vangoughv@hotmail.com
> Cc: fot@autox.team.net; fubog1@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR
>=20
> Bruce...
>=20
> All these names sure bring back memories.
>=20
> Ken Gillanders was a Piece of Work (meant as a complimentary=20
> description!)=C2=A0 Ken's original Claim to Fame was drag racing=20
> his TR2 against Corvettes (handicapped) in the early 1950s.=C2=A0=20
> And it was a Champion too.=C2=A0 No one was more enthusiastic=20
> about TRIUMPH than Ken.=C2=A0 If I remember correctly, he was a=20
> local politician (Orange County, CA?), and like all=20
> politicians, he was verbose (chatty).=C2=A0 He could and=20
> would...talk your arm off.=C2=A0 Later on he started British Frame=20
> and Engine, a mail order source of TRIUMPH competition parts.=20
>=C2=A0 Another, lesser known, fact about Ken, was his love of=20
> MAGIC.=C2=A0 I believe there is some sort of MAGIC HALL of FAME in=20
> his home town, and Ken was a frequent visitor, and loved to=20
> show it off to visitors.=C2=A0=20
> Sadly, both he and his wife had serious health problems at=20
> the end, impacting dealing with British Frame and Engine.
>=20
>=20
> Ken was a Piece of Work.=C2=A0 I miss him.
>=20
> Bill Dentinger
>=20
>=C2=A0


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<div>Randall (et all)...</div>



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<div>Does anyone know what happened to Ken's TRIUMPH TR2 car?&nbsp; It was =
very special.</div>



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</div>



<div>The way I understand it, he purchased it across the pond when he was s=
tationed there in the service.&nbsp; I think that is how he got connected w=
ith early TRIUMPH competition parts connections, like Daryll Uprichards (sp=
?) and Cox and Buckles.&nbsp; It was a daily driver over there, and he ship=
ped it home when he was discharged.&nbsp; I don't remember it being a Long =
Door, but it was a low dash plate&nbsp; number TR2, and he kept it in gorge=
ous condition.&nbsp; It must have been tricked up some since TRIUMPH built =
it, because he drag raced it in 'handicapped drag races', and it was a cham=
pion.&nbsp; It used to beat the early Corvettes.&nbsp; It had four ten inch=
 alfin aluminum brake drums, and these were by TRIUMPH (supposedly they onl=
y made fifty sets).&nbsp; An Italian made 10" Alfin Drum was available "aft=
er market", and Old Blue has two of those in the rear.</div>



<div><br>

</div>



<div>Can anyone remember Ken's close buddy (Art, I think...maybe not).&nbsp=
; Super nice guy, but 180 degrees different than Ken.&nbsp; Ken would talk =
a mile a minute, and his friend would just stand there and smile.&nbsp; But=
 they were great buddies.</div>



<div><br>

</div>



<div>Bill Dentinger</div>



<div><br>

</div>

<br>

<br>



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--Original Message-----<br>

From: Randall &lt;TR3driver@ca.rr.com&gt;<br>

To: 'Bill Dentinger' &lt;billdentin@aol.com&gt;<br>

Sent: Mon, Sep 30, 2019 10:33 am<br>

Subject: RE: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR<br>

<br>



<div dir=3D"ltr">I believe it was more local than Orange county; specifical=
ly Temple City CA<br clear=3D"none">where he and Helen lived.&nbsp; I know =
he served multiple terms on the city<br clear=3D"none">council, and at leas=
t one or two as mayor.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I miss him too.=
&nbsp; As is so often the case, I wish I had spent more time<br clear=3D"no=
ne">listening to his stories.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-- Randa=
ll <br clear=3D"none">56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear=
=3D"none">71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear=3D"none">71-2-3=
 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">&gt; From: Fot [mailto:<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; shape=3D"rect">fot-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Bill Dentinger via F=
ot<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 8:17 AM<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:stutztr4@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:stutztr4@gmail.com"; shape=3D"rect">stutz=
tr4@gmail.com</a>; <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:vangoughv@hotmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:vangoughv@hotmail.com"; shape=3D"rect"=
>vangoughv@hotmail.com</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; Cc: <a rel=3D"nofollow" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@a=
utox.team.net" shape=3D"rect">fot@autox.team.net</a>; <a rel=3D"nofollow" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:fubog1@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fubog1@ao=
l.com" shape=3D"rect">fubog1@aol.com</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; Subject: Re=
: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br c=
lear=3D"none">&gt; Bruce...<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
All these names sure bring back memories.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; Ken Gillanders was a Piece of Work (meant as a complimentary=
 <br clear=3D"none">&gt; description!)&nbsp; Ken's original Claim to Fame w=
as drag racing <br clear=3D"none">&gt; his TR2 against Corvettes (handicapp=
ed) in the early 1950s.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; And it was a Champion=
 too.&nbsp; No one was more enthusiastic <br clear=3D"none">&gt; about TRIU=
MPH than Ken.&nbsp; If I remember correctly, he was a <br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; local politician (Orange County, CA?), and like all <br clear=3D"none">&=
gt; politicians, he was verbose (chatty).&nbsp; He could and <br clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; would...talk your arm off.&nbsp; Later on he started British Fram=
e <br clear=3D"none">&gt; and Engine, a mail order source of TRIUMPH compet=
ition parts. <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp; Another, lesser known, fact abou=
t Ken, was his love of <br clear=3D"none">&gt; MAGIC.&nbsp; I believe there=
 is some sort of MAGIC HALL of FAME in <br clear=3D"none">&gt; his home tow=
n, and Ken was a frequent visitor, and loved to <br clear=3D"none">&gt; sho=
w it off to visitors.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sadly, both he and his =
wife had serious health problems at <br clear=3D"none">&gt; the end, impact=
ing dealing with British Frame and Engine.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Ken was a Piece of Work.&nbsp; I mis=
s him.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Bill Dentinger<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&nbsp;<br>

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