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To: Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>, Paul Ricco <paulricco@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Roadster Factory Filings
From: ralph hansen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 22:19:25 +0000 (UTC)
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 I agree with Paul, we are the people, at least some of them, who supported=
 them for many years. If they did someone or many wrong its only fair that =
we share that info with others. Others may then make the decision to do bus=
iness or not. People are being silenced every day, things are being restric=
ted when it comes to free speech, we can not allow this forum to become tha=
t type of place. We have the right to agree or disagree with what is being =
stated, don't let that be taken away like so many things have been lately. =
Most importantly, don't turn this forum into a battleground over anything, =
it's here to promote our love of these cars and the people (family) that we=
 all have because of them.
like Paul stated, my two cents
Ralph
    On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 04:00:23 PM CDT, Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@=
autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Why is this not as good a forum as any other? =C2=A0Although, we have enjo=
yed a good relationship with The Roadster Factory as a parts supplier. =C2=
=A0 It does appear that they engaged in a business practice that hurt peopl=
e financially who supported them. =C2=A0Why should the people who were effe=
cted be silenced?
The Roadster Factory could have handled their business differently if they =
did not wish receive the negative press on forums. =C2=A0That was their cho=
ice and they have to live with the consequences of that. =C2=A0One of those=
 consequences will be people expressing frustrations.

Not every thread that comes through FOT is of interest to all members. =C2=
=A0We feel that is what the =E2=80=9Ddelete=E2=80=9D key is for. =C2=A0If w=
e are not interested in a topic, we delete the email. =C2=A0Pretty simple. =
=C2=A0But we think it is good for all to have the opportunity to express th=
eir concerns and inform others to be aware.
Just my two sense, in a time when so many people are trying to silence thos=
e who do not agree with them.
Freedom of speech is an important principle.
Paul


On Aug 13, 2020, at 2:41 PM, J Wagner via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:

I agree, this is not the right forum. =C2=A0I missed this story entirely, s=
o I googled around to get up to speed a little. =C2=A0Here=E2=80=99s a grea=
t forum that looks to be active and goes back for years. =C2=A0 No need to =
post on FOT.
The Roadster Factory customer investment program: TR6 Tech Forum : Triumph =
Experience Car Forums : The Triumph Experience
https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/tr6-tech-forum.2/the-roadster-factory-cust=
omer-investment.1379428/page-83
I applied to move to PA and work for TRF back in the late 80=E2=80=99s, but=
 Charles took 3 months to reply and offer me a job, and by then I had moved=
 to another state and started a new job. =C2=A0 (I never invested.) =C2=A0 =
=E2=80=94Justin







On Aug 13, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Ross, Lawrence via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:



Dan -
I understand that you, and a lot of other Triumph enthusiast's have suffere=
d financially thru the Roadster Factory Investment Program.
I just don't think that this something that should be discussed via an FOT =
email thread.
Just my own personal thoughts.
Larry RossWPTA Membership DirectorFOT Member



From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Dan Forgey via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 2:26 PM
To: triumph fot <fot@autox.team.net>; triumph fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: [External] [Fot] Roadster Factory Filings=C2=A0I see many new fili=
ngs sent directly to the court regarding The Roadster Factory court case an=
d Runyon's Investment Program debts.=C2=A0 I did send an email to to their=
=C2=A0 attorney early on.=C2=A0 Is this sufficient for the court to conside=
r what I am owed.
Dan Forgey=C2=A0
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp5377e241yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
3px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I agree with Paul, we are th=
e people, at least some of them, who supported them for many years. If they=
 did someone or many wrong its only fair that we share that info with other=
s. Others may then make the decision to do business or not. People are bein=
g silenced every day, things are being restricted when it comes to free spe=
ech, we can not allow this forum to become that type of place. We have the =
right to agree or disagree with what is being stated, don't let that be tak=
en away like so many things have been lately. Most importantly, don't turn =
this forum into a battleground over anything, it's here to promote our love=
 of these cars and the people (family) that we all have because of them.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-s=
etdir=3D"false">like Paul stated, my two cents</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-s=
etdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Ralph</div=
><div><br></div>
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                    On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 04:00:23 PM CDT, Paul Ric=
co via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><div>Why is this =
not as good a forum as any other? &nbsp;Although, we have enjoyed a good re=
lationship with The Roadster Factory as a parts supplier. &nbsp; It does ap=
pear that they engaged in a business practice that hurt people financially =
who supported them. &nbsp;Why should the people who were effected be silenc=
ed?<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf=
7bf4d46yiv3898873777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">The Roa=
dster Factory could have handled their business differently if they did not=
 wish receive the negative press on forums. &nbsp;That was their choice and=
 they have to live with the consequences of that. &nbsp;One of those conseq=
uences will be people expressing frustrations.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"y=
dpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><br clear=
=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d4=
6yiv3898873777">Not every thread that comes through FOT is of interest to a=
ll members. &nbsp;We feel that is what the =E2=80=9Ddelete=E2=80=9D key is =
for. &nbsp;If we are not interested in a topic, we delete the email. &nbsp;=
Pretty simple. &nbsp;But we think it is good for all to have the opportunit=
y to express their concerns and inform others to be aware.</div><div class=
=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv389=
8873777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">Just my two sense, i=
n a time when so many people are trying to silence those who do not agree w=
ith them.</div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><br clear=3D"none" c=
lass=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873=
777">Freedom of speech is an important principle.</div><div class=3D"ydpf7b=
f4d46yiv3898873777"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><=
/div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">Paul<br clear=3D"none" class=
=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46y=
iv3898873777"><blockquote class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" type=3D"cite">=
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777yqt1016814726" id=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv38=
98873777yqtfd31975"><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">On Aug 13, 2020=
, at 2:41 PM, J Wagner via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yi=
v3898873777" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"=
_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"=
ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d4=
6yiv3898873777"></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><div class=
=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777yqt1016814726" id=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777yq=
tfd96081"><div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><div class=3D"ydpf7b=
f4d46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv389887377=
7" dir=3D"ltr">I agree, this is not the right forum. &nbsp;I missed this st=
ory entirely, so I googled around to get up to speed a little. &nbsp;Here=
=E2=80=99s a great forum that looks to be active and goes back for years. &=
nbsp; No need to post on FOT.</div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" =
dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"></div><di=
v class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46y=
iv3898873777" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal;">=
<span class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><b class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv38988737=
77">The Roadster Factory customer investment program</b>: TR6 Tech Forum : =
Triumph Experience Car Forums : The Triumph Experience</span></div><div cla=
ss=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;lin=
e-height:normal;"><span class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><br clear=3D"non=
e" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"></span></div><span class=3D"ydpf7bf4d=
46yiv3898873777"><a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" href=
=3D"https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/tr6-tech-forum.2/the-roadster-factory-=
customer-investment.1379428/page-83" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://www.triumphexp.com/forum/tr6-tech-forum.2/the-roadster-factory-custome=
r-investment.1379428/page-83</a></span></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv38=
98873777" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"=
></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"y=
dpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">I applied to move to PA and work for TRF back in t=
he late 80=E2=80=99s, but Charles took 3 months to reply and offer me a job=
, and by then I had moved to another state and started a new job. &nbsp; (I=
 never invested.) &nbsp; =E2=80=94Justin</span></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4=
d46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv389=
8873777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><br clea=
r=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d=
46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898=
873777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d4=
6yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv38988=
73777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d4=
6yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv38988=
73777"></div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">On Aug 13, 2020, at 11:39 AM, =
Ross, Lawrence via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873=
777" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv=
3898873777"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"ydp=
f7bf4d46yiv3898873777" dir=3D"ltr">

</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv38988=
73777yqt1016814726" id=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777yqtfd31225"><div class=3D=
"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:12pt;">
Dan -</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">
</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
I understand that you, and a lot of other Triumph enthusiast's have suffere=
d financially thru the Roadster Factory Investment Program.</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">
</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
I just don't think that this something that should be discussed via an FOT =
email thread.</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">
</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
Just my own personal thoughts.</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">
</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
Larry Ross</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
WPTA Membership Director</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helve=
tica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
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bri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt;"><b class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv389887=
3777">From:</b> Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777=
" href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Dan Forgey via Fot &lt=
;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" href=3D"mailto:fot@au=
tox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">
<b class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">Sent:</b> Thursday, August 13, 2020 2=
:26 PM<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">
<b class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">To:</b> triumph fot &lt;<a shape=3D"r=
ect" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; triumph fot =
&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">
<b class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">Subject:</b> [External] [Fot] Roadste=
r Factory Filings</font>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777" style=3D"font-family:arial, helveti=
ca, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">I see many new filings sent directl=
y to the court regarding The Roadster Factory court case and Runyon's Inves=
tment Program debts.&nbsp; I did send an email to to their&nbsp; attorney e=
arly on.&nbsp; Is this sufficient for the court to consider what I am owed.=
</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydpf7bf=
4d46yiv3898873777">
</div>
<div class=3D"ydpf7bf4d46yiv3898873777">Dan Forgey&nbsp;</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>


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