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Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?

To: Phil Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:44:24 +0000 (UTC)
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 Hi Phil.=C2=A0 I used the same exact process when installing the steel shi=
m head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.=C2=A0 2 studs, head=
 gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared=
 with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with =
Gaskacinch)..=C2=A0 Worked then, sounds like it still works now.=C2=A0 Some=
 things never change.
Jack

    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that th=
e ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far=
 easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated=
 head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Becau=
se the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs,=
 it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. =
=C2=A0And yes, I re use the ARP studs.=C2=A0Phil Gott=E2=80=9865 TR4A HRG G=
roup 3.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:



=EF=BB=BF
I re-use the ARP head studs. =C2=A0Don=E2=80=99t have any stock =E2=80=9Ccr=
itical" bolts/studs in my race engine.

On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a h=
ead stud failure.=C2=A0 Broken most everything else...........except for co=
ils, never had a bad coil............
Henry Morrison
Sent from=C2=A0Outlook

From:=C2=A0Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Greg Lem=
on <grglmn@gmail.com>
Sent:=C2=A0Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM
To:=C2=A0Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outlook.com>
Cc:=C2=A0list Triumph <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs?=C2=A0I know some=
 people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a pro=
blem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 c=
ylinder TR, and big Healey.
Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if str=
etched it will bind.
Greg Lemon, TR250
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen <cliff_hansen@outlook.com> wrote:

I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A=E2=80=99s head is a=
t the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-us=
e the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and =
even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts o=
n this, but am interested in yours.=C2=A0Thanks,=C2=A0Cliff=C2=A0=C2=A0Sent=
 from=C2=A0Mail=C2=A0for Windows 10=C2=A0**=C2=A0triumphs@autox.team.net=C2=
=A0**

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi Phil.&nbsp; I used the sa=
me exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 rac=
e car all those years ago.&nbsp; 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all g=
asket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket seale=
r), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..&nbsp; Worked th=
en, sounds like it still works now.&nbsp; Some things never change.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false">Jack<br></div><div><br></div>
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                    On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott vi=
a Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068"><div>I had been r=
e-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to =
install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to in=
stall the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket,=
 then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel =
shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier=
 to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. &nbsp;And yes,=
 I re use the ARP studs.&nbsp;<div>Phil Gott</div><div>=E2=80=9865 TR4A HRG=
 Group 3.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from m=
y iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqt856=
7497062" id=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd15220"><br clear=3D"none"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot &lt;f=
ot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockqu=
ote></div></div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqt8567497062" id=3D"=
ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd15152"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
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yiv6324567068yqt8567497062" id=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd60231"><div>=
I re-use the ARP head studs. &nbsp;Don=E2=80=99t have any stock =E2=80=9Ccr=
itical" bolts/studs in my race engine.<br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068=
" clear=3D"none"><div><br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none"=
><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry =
A. Morrison via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068=
" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068Ap=
ple-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567=
068"></div></div></div></div><div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqt=
8567497062" id=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068yqtfd44985"><div class=3D"ydpd95e=
1bc4yiv6324567068" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; letter=
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al; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-style: s=
olid; text-decoration-color: currentcolor; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,=
 sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">In 39 years of British cars, I've never repl=
aced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.&nbsp; Broken most everythi=
ng else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............</div><=
div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-we=
ight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: non=
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size: 12pt;">Henry Morrison</div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" st=
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95e1bc4yiv6324567068" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">Sent from=
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ed-space">&nbsp;</span>Triumphs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4y=
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Greg Lemon &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" href=3D=
"mailto:grglmn@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">grglmn@gmail.c=
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"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">Sent:</b><span class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068=
Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM<br clas=
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4567068">To:</b><span class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068Apple-converted-spac=
e">&nbsp;</span>Cliff Hansen &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6=
324567068" href=3D"mailto:cliff_hansen@outlook.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
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lass=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>list Tr=
iumph &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" href=3D"mail=
to:triumphs@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none"><b=
 class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">Subject:</b><span class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4y=
iv6324567068Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [TR] would any of you r=
e-use head studs?</font><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">&nbsp;</div=
></div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv=
6324567068">I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced t=
hem and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite=
/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey.<div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4=
yiv6324567068"><br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a=
 good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind.</div><div clas=
s=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068"><br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=
=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068">Greg Lemon, TR250</=
div></div><br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none"><div class=
=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068x_gmail_quote"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324=
567068x_gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen &=
lt;<a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" href=3D"mailto:clif=
f_hansen@outlook.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">cliff_hansen@outlo=
ok.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" clear=3D"none">=
</div><blockquote class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068x_gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;bord=
er-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1b=
c4yiv6324567068" lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068x_m_-=
2488180878004560899WordSection1"><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" st=
yle=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">I respect your collective advice =
and experience. The 4A=E2=80=99s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (he=
ad gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you re=
place them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place f=
or at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in your=
s.</div><div class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068" style=3D"margin-top:0px;mar=
gin-bottom:0px;"><u class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068"></u>&nbsp;<u class=
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068" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">Thanks,</div><div class=3D=
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lass=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv6324567068"></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv63245=
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" style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><u class=3D"ydpd95e1bc4yiv632=
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