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Re: [Fot] TR 3/4 Southwick axle/bearing follow-up

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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR 3/4 Southwick axle/bearing follow-up
From: Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2026 22:41:05 +0100
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As a work around.

Put the race on a lathe and grind out radius to fit.

=20

Cheers

Chris

=20

From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of fubog1 via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2026 10:32 PM
To: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] TR 3/4 Southwick axle/bearing follow-up

=20

Hi all-=20

This is a follow-up to my recent post re TR-4/4 southwick axle specs & =
bearing fitting.

Apparently this was discussed around 5 years ago but I missed it, so I'm =
posting it again for those unaware of it.

The problem is that most of the replacement bearings don't fit, =
including the chicom Timkens.

The corner radius of the inner race is much smaller than the axle =
journal radius, where the inner race butts up against the axle shoulder, =
preventing the bearing race from pressing fully home.

This effectively weakens the axle since all of the stresses remain in =
the axle inside corner radius, instead of being distributed into the =
hub.

I measured a RW507ER Timken, National & unknown chicom bearing & all had =
a small radius.

The only bearing that actually fits is the 9507F =E2=80=9Csmall =
ford=E2=80=9D bearing from Moser, unknown manufacturer.

The photo below clearly shows that the Moser bearing inner race is =
relieved/clearanced out in the last =C2=BC inch or so before the radius, =
so the bearing presses fully home as intended.

BTW this is easily checked w/a feeler gauge, there should be NO =
clearance between the inner race & axle shoulder.

And many THANKS to those who responded to my post!

Glen Efinger

=20

Moser on left

representative of the other 3 right


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style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>As a work =
around.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Put the race on a lathe and grind out radius =
to fit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Fot =
&lt;fot-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>fubog1 via =
Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2026 10:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> FOT =
Triumph &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] TR 3/4 =
Southwick axle/bearing follow-up<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hi =
all-&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>This is a follow-up to my =
recent post re TR-4/4 southwick axle specs &amp; bearing =
fitting.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Apparently this was discussed =
around 5 years ago but I missed it, so I'm posting it again for those =
unaware of it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The =
problem is that most of the replacement bearings don't fit, including =
the chicom Timkens.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The =
corner radius of the inner race is much smaller than the axle journal =
radius, where the inner race butts up against the axle shoulder, =
preventing the bearing race from pressing fully =
home.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>This effectively weakens the =
axle since all of the stresses remain in the axle inside corner radius, =
instead of being distributed into the =
hub.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I measured a RW507ER Timken, =
National &amp; unknown chicom bearing &amp; all had a small =
radius.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The only bearing that actually =
fits is the 9507F =E2=80=9Csmall ford=E2=80=9D bearing from Moser, =
unknown manufacturer.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The =
photo below clearly shows that the Moser bearing inner race is =
relieved/clearanced out in the last =C2=BC inch or so before the radius, =
so the bearing presses fully home as =
intended.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>BTW this is easily checked w/a =
feeler gauge, there should be NO clearance between the inner race &amp; =
axle shoulder.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
style=3D'margin-bottom:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>And many THANKS to those who =
responded to my post!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'margin-bottom:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Glen =
Efinger<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Moser on =
left<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>representative of the other 3 =
right<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>
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