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Re: RUSTY SEAT - ACID

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Subject: Re: RUSTY SEAT - ACID
From: "Mark and Kathy" <mgtrcars@galaxyinternet.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:21:15 -0500
Scotty ,  What acid wash did you use.   Navel Jelly ?    Por 15  recommends 
THEIR phosphoric acid solution and their marine clean prewash if there is 
any oils or lubricants on the metals.    Their phosphoric acid did start to 
neutralize for me as soon as I hit it with some water to wash it off. 
Then as soon as it dried to a white finish it was ready for the Por 15 
coating.

In reality you can actually put the Por 15 right on the rusted metal after a 
good wire brushing and dusting.  A couple of coats of the black semi gloss 
gave me a rock hard surface.   But you need to keep it out of sun light 
unless you put their "top coat" on it.

The way I read the companies instructions ( and trust me I read them several 
times cause you get different ideas from the instruction sheet as compared 
to the sides of the cans,  pretty confusing really),   was that the acid 
wash is really for smoother , non rusted metal to give it the "etched" 
surface that the paint coat needs to bond.  With the rusted surface the 
paint already has an "etched" surface to bond to.

So any way to answer your question,  your on your own using another 
companies etching product but if I were you once the pans dry from the water 
wash you should be good to go.   Sounds like the pans will be "good and 
etched" once your ready for the paint coat.

Also with this stuff moisture is not a real problem cause they claim that it 
sets up best in high moisture situations.  Go figure!

Good Luck,  Mark


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <scott@scottjgraham.com>
To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 3:36 AM
Subject: RUSTY SEAT - ACID


>I removed the rust from the rear seat pan for my BJ7 with an acid type rust 
>remover and now want to paint with POR.
>
> However, I notice that the acid seems to still be in the metal.  There is 
> a warning on the bottle saying that if there are any "white crystals" on 
> the surface, that there is still acid in the surface and it cannot be 
> painted until it is all removed. After wiping the surface several times 
> with a wet rag as advised, the white coloring continues to appear on the 
> surface. So I am soaking the pan in water overnight to see if this will 
> neutralize the acid.
>
> Is this the best solution? Any other suggestions?
>
>
> Scott Graham
> Green 63 BJ7




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