?I have an original '67 BJ8 built in late September of 1966 approx. 400 from
the end. I am the third owner and it only has 30,000 miles and has never
been messed with other than one repaint. It HAS rivets. Just weighing in
on this subject.
Joe Troutwine
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From: Editorgary@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:55 AM
To: healey@hunterbane.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ah, the rivet...and the Assumptions Within
In a message dated 12/6/10 8:26:39 AM, healey@hunterbane.com writes:
> I am surprised that you as an editor are using assumptions to make
> your case, but since I am not, I think I will. I should start off by
> saying that I am a "have-not" and deeply suffer from the rivet envy
> because of the emphases placed on it from the "haves". While mine is
> without, it is still a NOS high quality chrome OEM part that is a
> correct fit and as it has the same part number as the lucas
> replacement parts list for a 60-61 year model, which also matches the
> 62-67 part number on 2 different Lucas catalogues that I have in my
> possession. So, if they got it wrong, they got it wrong on at least 2
> accounts.
>
Interesting comments. People make assumptions all the time to fill in the
gaps when recorded history is insufficient to provide exact answers. The
only
harm is when people overlay known fact with assumptions that suit their
interpretation of history -- as seems to be the case in politics these
days --
What we try to do with the concours standards is to make assumptions and
label them as such, if we're aware that there is an issue, until we have
more
facts.
But, you make an interesting point regarding possibilities for changes in
the headlamp rim. If other changes were being made that might have permitted
the supplier to make a cost-saving change in the headlight rim during
production, then dimpled headlight rims should be found on all of the last
run
of
convertibles. All of them. So, the question to people who own phase II Mark
IIIs is: do you have dimples or real rivets with snap brackets on the back?
If we could establish that the all of the last convertibles produced had
the dimples rather than the rivets, then our question would shift to when
the
change point occurred, and we could modify the standards to indicate that
such a change appears to have taken place, but we don't know when.
Is there anyone on this list with a late unrestored convertible -- say,
built in 1966 -- that has riveted headlamp rims?
Thanks
Gary
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