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Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance-FYI

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance-FYI
From: Warren <flyhihealey@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 07:10:36 -0400
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    Bob wrote=3B "I thought Interstate was a good brand=3B I won't buy anot=
her if I can help it."

Speaking of batteries=2C my experience with Autozone Duralast brand has bee=
n positive. I now have them  in my daily driversand the Healey.=20
 The one in the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep a tr=
ickle charger on when stored for 7 mos. and also during driving season when=
 parked. Whether that has to do with  longevity or luck I don't know?  I al=
so trickle charge the daily drivers if I'm away for more than a week. Newer=
 cars drain fast.
 I plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-DG)  this spring. Don't want to =
push my luck since I will be driving to Gettysburg in July for Enclave.    =
                                     http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-ma=
kes-duralast-batteries/
WD67 BJ8Date: Thu=2C 16 Apr 2015 21:47:06 -0700
From: bspidell@comcast.net
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW:  Starter resistance

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    An anecdote=2C but maybe it'll help:
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    When we restored our BN2=2C we went back to 2x6V batteries.  We had=0A=
    intermittent starting problems=3B connections at the solenoid and=0A=
    elsewhere would get pistol hot.  We had fabricated our own battery=0A=
    cables--from double-ought stranded welding cable!--but my dad was=0A=
    worried our soldered connections were bad.  We often charged the=0A=
    batteries to max charge on a charger before testing the starting=0A=
    system.
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    Then=2C one day Dad accidentally shorted out the two batteries (he's=0A=
    lucky he didn't get an explosion or splashed with acid=2C or both). =0A=
    He replaced the two batteries and=2C lo and behold=2C  the big 4-cyl=0A=
    spins over better than my BJ8=2C and the 4 has better compression. =0A=
    The car may sit for a couple months but always has charge for a=0A=
    start.  Bottom line: still could be the battery.
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    Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate brand--golf cart=0A=
    batteries=2C actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've had in my 2008=
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    Mustang.  That's right=2C 3 batteries in 7 years=3B the first two both=
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    went almost exactly at 3 years=2C I expect the third to go in 3 as=0A=
    well.  These Interstates are hecho en Mexico=3B I wanted to buy a=0A=
    Parts+ battery but would have had to wait a day to get it and this=0A=
    car is my daily driver.  I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my=0A=
    BJ8=3B it was still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and=
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    I was getting ready for a long road trip.  And=2C it's made in the=0A=
    USA.
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    I thought Interstate was a good brand=3B I won't buy another if I can=
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    help it.
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    Bob
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    On 4/16/2015 5:28 PM=2C John Spaur wrote:
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            binds on the worm gear when is spins down and engages the=0A=
            flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench. When=0A=
            this first occurred it was because the armature shaft could=0A=
            move too far forward which allowed the pinon gear to move=0A=
            too far down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer between=0A=
            the armature and the end plate (inside the motor) to limit=0A=
            the movement of the armature shaft. There was already a very=0A=
            worn steel thrust washer in that place.=0A=
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'><div>&nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B<s=
pan style=3D"font-size: 12pt=3B">Bob wrote=3B "</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize: 12pt=3B">I thought Interstate was a good brand=3B I won't buy another =
if I can help it."</span></div><div><br><br></div>Speaking of batteries=2C =
my experience with Autozone Duralast brand has been positive. I now&nbsp=3B=
have them &nbsp=3Bin my daily drivers<div>and the Healey.&nbsp=3B</div><div=
><br></div><div>&nbsp=3BThe one in the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and s=
till going. I keep a trickle charger on when stored for 7 mos. and also dur=
ing driving season when parked. Whether that has to do with &nbsp=3Blongevi=
ty or luck I don't know? &nbsp=3BI also trickle charge the daily drivers if=
 I'm away for more than a week. Newer cars drain fast.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>&nbsp=3BI plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-DG) &nbsp=3Bthis spr=
ing. Don't want to push my luck since I will be driving to Gettysburg in Ju=
ly for Enclave. &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B&nbsp=
=3B</div><div>&nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=
=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B<=
a href=3D"http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-size: 12pt=3B">http://bestbatterytips.com/tag=
s/who-makes-duralast-batteries/</a></div><div><br></div><div>WD</div><div>6=
7 BJ8</div><div><div><hr id=3D"stopSpelling">Date: Thu=2C 16 Apr 2015 21:47=
:06 -0700<br>From: bspidell@comcast.net<br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Su=
bject: Re: [Healeys] FW:  Starter resistance<br><br>=0A=
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    =0A=
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    An anecdote=2C but maybe it'll help:<br>=0A=
    <br>=0A=
    When we restored our BN2=2C we went back to 2x6V batteries.&nbsp=3B We =
had=0A=
    intermittent starting problems=3B connections at the solenoid and=0A=
    elsewhere would get pistol hot.&nbsp=3B We had fabricated our own batte=
ry=0A=
    cables--from double-ought stranded welding cable!--but my dad was=0A=
    worried our soldered connections were bad.&nbsp=3B We often charged the=
=0A=
    batteries to max charge on a charger before testing the starting=0A=
    system.<br>=0A=
    <br>=0A=
    Then=2C one day Dad accidentally shorted out the two batteries (he's=0A=
    lucky he didn't get an explosion or splashed with acid=2C or both).&nbs=
p=3B=0A=
    He replaced the two batteries and=2C lo and behold=2C&nbsp=3B the big 4=
-cyl=0A=
    spins over better than my BJ8=2C and the 4 has better compression.&nbsp=
=3B=0A=
    The car may sit for a couple months but always has charge for a=0A=
    start.&nbsp=3B Bottom line: still could be the battery.<br>=0A=
    <br>=0A=
    Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate brand--golf cart=0A=
    batteries=2C actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've had in my 2008=
=0A=
    Mustang.&nbsp=3B That's right=2C 3 batteries in 7 years=3B the first tw=
o both=0A=
    went almost exactly at 3 years=2C I expect the third to go in 3 as=0A=
    well.&nbsp=3B These Interstates are hecho en Mexico=3B I wanted to buy =
a=0A=
    Parts+ battery but would have had to wait a day to get it and this=0A=
    car is my daily driver.&nbsp=3B I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my=
=0A=
    BJ8=3B it was still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and=
=0A=
    I was getting ready for a long road trip.&nbsp=3B And=2C it's made in t=
he=0A=
    USA.<br>=0A=
    <br>=0A=
    I thought Interstate was a good brand=3B I won't buy another if I can=
=0A=
    help it.<br>=0A=
    <br>=0A=
    Bob<br>=0A=
    <br>=0A=
    <div class=3D"ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 4/16/2015 5:28 PM=2C John Spaur wr=
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            binds on the worm gear when is spins down and engages the=0A=
            flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench. When=0A=
            this first occurred it was because the armature shaft could=0A=
            move too far forward which allowed the pinon gear to move=0A=
            too far down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer between=0A=
            the armature and the end plate (inside the motor) to limit=0A=
            the movement of the armature shaft. There was already a very=0A=
            worn steel thrust washer in that place.</span></p>=0A=
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