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Re: [Healeys] Early BN1 Photo

To: "'Curtis Arndt'" <cnaarndt@gmail.com>, "'100healey'" <varley@cosmos.net.au>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early BN1 Photo
From: "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 12:33:47 +1000
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Greetings

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I would be surprised if the first car was scrapped, more like bits of it =
were used in other experiments.

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Both the BN3/1 and BN3/4 started life as very early four-cylinder cars =
before the six-cylinder engines were fitted in =E2=80=9954 and later. =
There are lots of bits in both cars that are certainly not akin to =
production cars.

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The X numbers used by the DHMC referred to experiments and not complete =
cars. My car, the BN3/1 was X207 and according to Geoff Price when he =
was speaking to an earlier owner it originated as a pre-production =
chassis. Whether this is true or not, I have no way of telling.

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Best wishes

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Patrick Quinn

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Curtis Arndt
Sent: Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:08 AM
To: 100healey
Cc: Healey List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Early BN1 Photo

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Larry,

I spoke with John Wheatley about this car very at the Lake Tahoe meet =
back in 2002. This was the prototype and the only body built by =
Tickfords, versus all subsequent cars that were built by Jensen.  Thus =
the rarest of the rare car being the first, a one off car built by =
Tickfords, the car that started the legend, and unfortunately according =
to John, scraped many years ago.  Very sad indeed that no one saw to =
save this piece of automotive history.

The oldest known surviving 100 is AHX-3 owned by a member of our =
Concours Committee.

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Cheers,

Curt

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On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Larry Varley <varley@cosmos.net.au> =
wrote:

Its interesting to note that there does not appear to be front shroud =
supports at the front of the chassis rails in the right hand photo. The =
car is purported to be Chassis number J4001  Is anything known of what =
happened to this car and the other prototypes?? If you look at the =
following page on my website you will also see the very early chassis =
design part way down the page with some explanation of the prototype =
sequence.
http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/45.html
Clearly there were prototype chassis designs before production began, it =
would be very interesting to know more history.
Regards
Larry Varley
http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/




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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Greetings<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I would be surprised =
if the first car was scrapped, more like bits of it were used in other =
experiments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Both the BN3/1 and =
BN3/4 started life as very early four-cylinder cars before the =
six-cylinder engines were fitted in =E2=80=9954 and later. There are =
lots of bits in both cars that are certainly not akin to production =
cars.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>The X numbers used by =
the DHMC referred to experiments and not complete cars. My car, the =
BN3/1 was X207 and according to Geoff Price when he was speaking to an =
earlier owner it originated as a pre-production chassis. Whether this is =
true or not, I have no way of telling.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Best =
wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Curtis =
Arndt<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
100healey<br><b>Cc:</b> Healey List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Early BN1 Photo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Larry,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I spoke with John =
Wheatley about this car very at the Lake Tahoe meet back in 2002. This =
was the prototype and the only body built by Tickfords, versus all =
subsequent cars that were built by Jensen.&nbsp; Thus the rarest of the =
rare car being the first, a one off car built by Tickfords, the car that =
started the legend, and unfortunately according to John, scraped many =
years ago.&nbsp; Very sad indeed that no one saw to save this piece of =
automotive history.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The =
oldest known surviving 100 is AHX-3 owned by a member of our Concours =
Committee.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Curt<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Fri, =
Oct 2, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Larry Varley &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:varley@cosmos.net.au"; =
target=3D"_blank">varley@cosmos.net.au</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Its interesting to note that there does =
not appear to be front shroud supports at the front of the chassis rails =
in the right hand photo. The car is purported to be<b> </b>Chassis =
number J4001<b>&nbsp;</b> Is anything known of what happened to this car =
and the other prototypes?? If you look at the following page on my =
website you will also see the very early chassis design part way down =
the page with some explanation of the prototype sequence.<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/45.html"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/45.html</a><br>Clearl=
y there were prototype chassis designs before production began, it would =
be very interesting to know more history.<br>Regards<span =
style=3D'color:#888888'><br><span class=3Dhoenzb>Larry =
Varley</span><br><span class=3Dhoenzb><a =
href=3D"http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/</a></span><br><br></=
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