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To: David Nock British Car Specialists <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN7 Top Frame
From: Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 23:06:27 +1100
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..... And that answer alone is probably one of the best single reasons to su=
bscribe to this email list.=20
The Nock's knowledge is legendary.=20
RIP Norman.=20
And thank you David.=20
Sincerely.=20
Chris Dimmock

> On 6 Dec 2015, at 2:11 PM, David Nock British Car Specialists <healeydoc@s=
bcglobal.net> wrote:
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> The wood bow that Moss sells is wrong. They sell the same bow for the 2 an=
d 4 seater cars. They are not the same. We have two different header bows fo=
r the roadsters.
>=20
>=20
> David Nock
> British Car Specialists
> Stockton Ca 95205
> 209-948-8767
>=20
> www.britishcarspecialists.com
>=20
> Please feel free to view an interview with the Nock's in 2009
>       Enjoy=09
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQOTTRYkbQzs
> .
> .
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com> w=
rote:
>>=20
>> I have a suspicion that may be my problem but...
>> My frame and windshield fit fine
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Richard C
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 20:09, Jim Wojcik <jvwojcik@comcast.net> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hello, folks. I am not sure about the frame but I can tell you that at o=
ne point in my own restoration I bought a windshield glass from a friend wit=
h an BN6 and the shape was not the same, did not fit my frame, and I had to b=
uy a specific curve for my 60 BN7. Jim Wojcik.
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richa=
rd Collins
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2015 4:31 PM
>>> To: Peter Svilans <peter.svilans@rogers.com>
>>> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN7 Top Frame
>>> =20
>>> Thanks for this.
>>> I tried it to fit on another BN7 and while it was closer to a fit on the=
 too of the windshield frame than on mine, it still was off. That frame had a=
 center toggle lock on it which held the frame in the center.
>>> It could be the wood piece so I will take another look at it. I haven't p=
layed with it lately so with winter almost here I thought I would give it a s=
hot again.
>>> Thanks again !
>>>=20
>>> Regards,
>>> Richard C
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 15:55, Peter Svilans <peter.svilans@rogers.com> wrote=
:
>>>=20
>>> Richard
>>> =20
>>> Only one 2-seater top frame for BN6 and BN7, sorry.=20
>>> =20
>>> One would have to see your installation, to see what the issue is.
>>> =20
>>> The bows have an adjustment, two long screws in the feet of the main bow=
, but that would likely not affect your problem. Nor would the separate thin=
 wedge piece under the clamp
>>> =20
>>> The aluminum trim and rubber seal together should have enough thickness t=
o get a nice over-center action from the clamps.
>>> =20
>>> The wood bows from Moss have sometimes not had the correct curve to fit t=
he windshield top exactly, in my experience. If the bow is not curved enough=
 at the outer ends, then the clamps are too close to the pegs.  Look very ca=
refully at what is going on, and see what would be necessary to make the woo=
d header bow provide enough height from the windshield to raise the steel to=
p frame, and make the clamp just barely reach the peg at full extension. May=
be add a strip of 1/8 plywood between wood bow and aluminum ?
>>> =20
>>> Attached pic shows "J" hook fully wound in, so rubber seal is removed fo=
r replacement with new. The lovely sharp-pointed "S" clamp is the correct or=
iginal BN6-7 type, but the blunt BJ8 "safety" clamps sold now do the same jo=
b.
>>> =20
>>> Best I can do without seeing yours.
>>> =20
>>> Peter

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>..... And that answer alone is probabl=
y one of the best single reasons to subscribe to this email list.&nbsp;</div=
><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">The Nock's knowledge is legendary.&nbsp;</di=
v><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">RIP Norman.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMail=
Signature">And thank you David.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Si=
ncerely.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Chris Dimmock<br></div><d=
iv><br>On 6 Dec 2015, at 2:11 PM, David Nock British Car Specialists &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" c=
ontent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>The wood bow that Moss sells is w=
rong. They sell the same bow for the 2 and 4 seater cars. They are not the s=
ame. We have two different header bows for the roadsters.<br><br><div><span c=
lass=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; border-spacing=
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gba(255, 255, 255, 0);">British Car Specialists</font></p><p style=3D"margin=
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a 95205</font></p><p style=3D"margin: 0px; "><font><a href=3D"tel:209-948-87=
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argin: 0px; "><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br>=
</span></p><p style=3D"margin: 0px; "><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(=
255, 255, 255, 0);">Please feel free to view an interview with the Nock's in=
 2009</span></p><p style=3D"margin: 0px; "><font style=3D"background-color: r=
gba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:=
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v></span></div><div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><br>On Dec 5, 2015, at=
 6:13 PM, Richard Collins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com";>g=
onnagitcha90@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cit=
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<div>I have a suspicion that may be my problem but...</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">My frame and windshield fit fine<br>
<br>
Regards,
<div>Richard C</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
On Dec 5, 2015, at 20:09, Jim Wojcik &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jvwojcik@comcast.=
net">jvwojcik@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hello, folks. I am not sure about the f=
rame but I can tell you that at one point in my own restoration I bought a w=
indshield glass from a friend with an BN6 and
 the shape was not the same, did not fit my frame, and I had to buy a specif=
ic curve for my 60 BN7. Jim Wojcik.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healey=
s-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Collins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 5, 2015 4:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Svilans &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:peter.svilans@rogers.com";>pet=
er.svilans@rogers.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net<=
/a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BN7 Top Frame<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I tried it to fit on another BN7 and while it was clo=
ser to a fit on the too of the windshield frame than on mine, it still was o=
ff. That frame had a center toggle lock on it which held the frame in the ce=
nter.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It could be the wood piece so I will take another loo=
k at it. I haven't played with it lately so with winter almost here I though=
t I would give it a shot again.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks again !<br>
<br>
Regards, <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Richard C<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On Dec 5, 2015, at 15:55, Peter Svilans &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:peter.svilans@=
rogers.com">peter.svilans@rogers.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">Richard</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">Only one 2-seater top frame for BN6 and BN7, sorry.&nbs=
p;
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">One would have to see your installation, to see what th=
e issue is.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">The bows&nbsp;have an adjustment,&nbsp;two long screws i=
n the feet of the main bow, but that would likely not affect your problem. N=
or would the separate thin wedge piece under the clamp</span><o:p></o:p></p>=

</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">The aluminum trim and rubber seal together should have e=
nough thickness to get a nice over-center action from the clamps.</span><o:p=
></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">The wood bows from Moss have sometimes not had the corr=
ect curve to fit the windshield top exactly, in my experience. If the bow is=
 not curved enough at the&nbsp;outer ends, then
 the clamps are too close to the pegs. &nbsp;Look very carefully at what is g=
oing on, and see what would be necessary to make the wood header bow&nbsp;pr=
ovide enough height&nbsp;from the windshield&nbsp;to raise the steel top fra=
me, and make the clamp just barely reach the peg
 at full extension. Maybe add a strip of 1/8 plywood between wood bow and al=
uminum ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">Attached pic shows "J" hook fully wound in, so rubber s=
eal is removed&nbsp;for replacement with new. The lovely sharp-pointed "S" c=
lamp is the correct original BN6-7&nbsp;type, but the
 blunt BJ8 "safety" clamps sold now&nbsp;do the same job.</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">Best I can do without seeing yours.</span><o:p></o:p></=
p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,sans-serif">Peter</span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></=
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