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Subject: [Healeys] ZDDP, Break-in and Oil on Lifters and cam shafts
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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 20:04:47 -0400
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 Beaten to death is an understatement. 

There is a load of garbage still floating around the nothing-ever-goes-away 
internet.

The point is simple -- Rebuild engines desperately need ZDDP in the rebuild 
grease and a good non-synthetic oil during the break-in period because it helps 
microfill the porous areas while the oil carries away the metallic junk that 
gets ground off as the microscopically high parts of the surfaces are worn 
down. Without those, the rubbing surfaces microweld with each other and then 
rip off and then microweld and rip off, ruining the cam shaft surfaces.

BUT -- all of this happens essentially during the first five minutes of the 
first firing of the engine. 

So, it's all very simple -- put on the ZDDP-rich break-in grease on the cam 
shaft surfaces and tappet rubbing surfaces. Use a very high quality break-in 
oil. Stop the engine after 10-20 minutes of running and change out the oil. Run 
the engine again with another fresh dose of break-in oil for the first hundred 
or so miles of gentle break-in driving. Incidentally, doing all this on a dyno, 
perhaps even before the engine is installed in the car, is the very best 
possible idea. Then change the oil again to a high-quality dinosaur oil or 
synthetic oil and drive for the first coupld thousand  miles, or first weekend 
if it's a race car, and change again then go to the standard 5,000 miles on 
regular oil or 10,000 miles on synthetic oil, or every year, whichever comes 
first. 

Repeat after me -- extra ZDDP is essential at break-in and then after that 
doesn't matter all.

G.

 

Gary Anderson
Author, Restoration Guide to Austin Healeys
Car magazine editor for 20 years.

 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Lifter and Cam Wear ZDDP Issue (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
   

Michael,

As you are probably aware this subject was beaten to death on the British
Car Forum. The conclusion I came to at the time was that thinner, fully
synthetic oil was the best way to go. However there was still some
ambiguity regarding whether to look for a fully synthetic that had the 1200
ZDDP or whether to ignore that. 


 


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<div> <font size="2">Beaten to death is an understatement. <br>
<br>
There is a load of garbage still floating around the nothing-ever-goes-away 
internet.<br>
<br>
The point is simple -- Rebuild engines desperately need ZDDP in the rebuild 
grease and a good non-synthetic oil during the break-in period because it helps 
microfill the porous areas while the oil carries away the metallic junk that 
gets ground off as the microscopically high parts of the surfaces are worn 
down. Without those, the rubbing surfaces microweld with each other and then 
rip off and then microweld and rip off, ruining the cam shaft surfaces.<br>
<br>
BUT -- all of this happens essentially during the first five minutes of the 
first firing of the engine. <br>
<br>
So, it's all very simple -- put on the ZDDP-rich break-in grease on the cam 
shaft surfaces and tappet rubbing surfaces. Use a very high quality break-in 
oil. Stop the engine after 10-20 minutes of running and change out the oil. Run 
the engine again with another fresh dose of break-in oil for the first hundred 
or so miles of gentle break-in driving. Incidentally, doing all this on a dyno, 
perhaps even before the engine is installed in the car, is the very best 
possible idea. Then change the oil again to a high-quality dinosaur oil or 
synthetic oil and drive for the first coupld thousand&nbsp; miles, or first 
weekend if it's a race car, and change again then go to the standard 5,000 
miles on regular oil or 10,000 miles on synthetic oil, or every year, whichever 
comes first. <br>
<br>
Repeat after me -- extra ZDDP is essential at break-in and then after that 
doesn't matter all.<br>
<br>
G.<br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><i>Gary 
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<font size="2">Author, Restoration Guide to Austin Healeys<br>
Car magazine editor for 20 years.<br>
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Today's Topics:<br>

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   1. Re: Lifter and Cam Wear ZDDP Issue (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)<br>

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<br>

Michael,<br>

<br>

As you are probably aware this subject was beaten to death on the British<br>

Car Forum. The conclusion I came to at the time was that thinner, fully<br>

synthetic oil was the best way to go. However there was still some<br>

ambiguity regarding whether to look for a fully synthetic that had the 1200<br>

ZDDP or whether to ignore that. <br>

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<br>

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