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Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve

To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve
From: Mike <phoenix722@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:53:25 -0700
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Would it work to lap the parts together like valves against the seat?

Mike

On 7/17/2016 3:57 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote:
>
> G?day
>
> Which reminds me!
>
> In the process of getting the Healey Duncan going I disassembled, 
> cleaned and polished the brass ?tapered plug? drain tap and it looked 
> very pretty against the gloss black of the engine. One problem is that 
> it didn?t seal!
>
> So out it came and with much physical action with a cloth and Brasso 
> the tapered joins were polished. Then when assembling it received the 
> gentle hammer treatment in the hope that it would seal. It didn?t!
>
> In the end I removed the tap from the BN3?s engine and used that which 
> worked perfectly.
>
> The tap fitted to the Healey engine is more ornate that fitted to the 
> Austin-Healey but apart from more work with Brasso I?m at a loss at 
> what to do.
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Michael Salter
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM
> *To:* Mike Garvey
> *Cc:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater Valve
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Th valve that you are working with is actually a "taper plug" valve.
>
> I just freed up 2 of them this morning for the 100 engine that I'm 
> building.
>
> I have found that a gentle tap on the small shaft that extends below 
> the spring is usually enough to loosen the taper and free up the valve.
>
> Don't hit it too hard or you will damage the brass shaft.
>
> If that doesn't work you have to remove the split (cotter) pin, then 
> the washer then the spring. That will expose the end of the taper 
> which when tapped with a hollow punch will drop out.
>
> Michael S
>
> BN1 #174
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike Garvey <r3m1g4@verizon.net 
>
> I have read in the archives about all the handles broken off the 
> heater valve (controls coolant flow to the cockpit heater).
>
> My handle is not yet broken off.  I can't get the valve closed with 
> reasonable force. Any hints or suggestions?
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
> Michael Garvey
> 1967 BJ8/38046
>
>
>
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-- 
Mike

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BN1 (long gone)
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    <p>Would it work to lap the parts together like valves against the
      seat?</p>
    <p>Mike<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/17/2016 3:57 PM, Patrick &amp;
      Caroline Quinn wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:10.0pt">G?day<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Which
            reminds me!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">In the
            process of getting the Healey Duncan going I disassembled,
            cleaned and polished the brass ?tapered plug? drain tap and
            it looked very pretty against the gloss black of the engine.
            One problem is that it didn?t seal!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">So out it
            came and with much physical action with a cloth and Brasso
            the tapered joins were polished. Then when assembling it
            received the gentle hammer treatment in the hope that it
            would seal. It didn?t!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">In the end I
            removed the tap from the BN3?s engine and used that which
            worked perfectly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">The tap
            fitted to the Healey engine is more ornate that fitted to
            the Austin-Healey but apart from more work with Brasso I?m
            at a loss at what to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Patrick
            Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Blue
            Mountains, Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
            lang="EN-US"> Healeys
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
 <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael
            Salter<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 18 July 2016 3:41 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Mike Garvey<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] JB8 Stuck Heater 
Valve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">Hi Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">Th valve that you are working with is
                actually a "taper plug" valve. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">I just freed up 2 of them this morning
                for the 100 engine that I'm building.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">I have found that a gentle tap on the
                small shaft that extends below the spring is usually
                enough to loosen the taper and free up the 
valve.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">Don't hit it too hard or you will damage
                the brass shaft. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">If that doesn't work you have to remove
                the split (cotter) pin, then the washer then the spring.
                That will expose the end of the taper which when tapped
                with a hollow punch will drop out. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">Michael S<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Comic
                Sans MS&quot;">BN1 #174<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Mike
              Garvey &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:r3m1g4@verizon.net"; 
target="_blank">r3m1g4@verizon.net</a>&gt;
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US">I have read in the archives about all
                    the handles broken off the heater valve (controls
                    coolant flow to the cockpit heater).  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US">My handle is not yet broken off.  I
                    can't get the valve closed with reasonable force. 
                    Any hints or suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US">Thanks, Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                    lang="EN-US">Michael Garvey<br>
                    1967 BJ8/38046<br>
                    <br>
                  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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