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Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake Servo

To: Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca>, Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake Servo
From: Stephen Hutchings <s.hutchings@rogers.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 23:44:15 +0000 (UTC)
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: healeys@autox.team.net
References: <A03B7D3D-F72D-4896-A2DB-94339033BFE4@me.com> <48C7D7736F944E249633A24FE1166967@KagsLaptop>
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I have a feeling that my PBR booster, which I installed a number of years a=
go, was not the same ratio as my old Girling.The Girling had given up, and =
had multiple problems, but I clearly remember that back when it was working=
 it had a much more satisfying "bite"- less effort than the PBR.
After reading your post, I will be looking to see if I have the little rubb=
er elbow hose!
Stephen, BJ8

      From: Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca>
 To: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 9:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake Servo
  =20
A few years ago, several Healey owners here installed PBR VH40 boosters in =
our BJ8=E2=80=99s.=C2=A0 We sourced them at:=C2=A0http://www.hydroboost.com=
.au/prices.htm=C2=A0in Australia.=C2=A0 I learned some interesting things i=
n the process =E2=80=93 the important one is that the VH40 booster is made =
in several different versions with different boost ratios.=C2=A0 It means t=
hat you have to be sure that the one you buy has a matching boost ratio as =
the original Girling for it to work properly in your BJ8.=C2=A0 (the earlie=
r Healeys that had optional boosters installed would use a VH44 that would =
match the earlier smaller Girling).=C2=A0These boosters are diaphragm units=
, which means that a vacuum loss will lock the brakes on =E2=80=93 sometime=
s not the best scenario! =E2=80=93 ask me how I know about this.=C2=A0 Turn=
s out that there were some defective small rubber elbow hoses =E2=80=93 the=
 one that connects the two sections of the unit.=C2=A0 They were split on i=
nstallation at the factory.=C2=A0 The fix was easy =E2=80=93 shorten the st=
eel pipe leading up to the valve body and use a length of quality vacuum ho=
se and a couple of hose clamps.=C2=A0We have found the PBR VH40 to be an ex=
cellent replacement for the original Girling =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m told tha=
t it=E2=80=99s getting increasingly difficult to find quality rebuild kits =
for the Girling.=C2=A0 So in the interests of safety, a replacement booster=
 is preferable in most respects.=C2=A0The above web-site will answer quite =
a few questions for you.=C2=A0 We had mounting bracket kits and pre-bent br=
ake pipes sent with the boosters =E2=80=93 the brackets were Kilmartin piec=
es at the time.=C2=A0 So basically the whole thing was a bolt in propositio=
n.=C2=A0 A slightly longer (about 4 inches) vacuum hose is required to conn=
ect the booster to the manifold.=C2=A0Incidentally, the PBR booster has a b=
leed screw right on it, which makes things a bit easier when bleeding the s=
ystem.=C2=A0I am happy with the braking feel of my BJ8 with the PBR booster=
 installed.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m pretty sure that they can be sourced in North=
 America.=C2=A0Earl Kagna
Victoria, B.C.
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb=C2=A0From: Randy Hicks Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:24 A=
MTo: Healey List Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake Servo=C2=A0Hi, have a friend =
needing to replace a BJ8 brake servo (booster).=20
Suggestions and sources needed.=20
I have PBR (VH40, I believe) on my BJ8 and happy with that for 7-8 years. A=
re these still available? Where?
Randy
Randy Hicks
www.austinhealey100m.com
'56 100 M=C2=A0 White/Black=20
'56 100 M=C2=A0 Florida Green/OEW =E2=80=9CIrene"
'65 BJ8=20
'53 MGTD '77 450 SL=20
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
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sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180=
970450_4141"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4235">I have a fee=
ling that my PBR booster, which I installed a number of years ago, was not =
the same ratio as my old Girling.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1470180970450_4535" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450=
_4235">The Girling had given up, and had multiple problems, but I clearly r=
emember that back when it was working it had a much more satisfying "bite"-=
 less effort than the PBR.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180=
970450_4582" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4235">=
</span><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4235"></span><span id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4235"><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4610" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_147=
0180970450_4235">After reading your post, I will be looking to see if I hav=
e the little rubber elbow hose!</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
70180970450_4148" class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470=
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9"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14701809=
70450_4609">Stephen, BJ8<br></span></div><br></div><div style=3D"display: b=
lock;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4172" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> =
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=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Earl Kagna &l=
t;kags@shaw.ca&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>=
 Healey List &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-wei=
ght: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, August 1, 2016 9:18 PM<br> <b><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8 Brake Serv=
o<br> </font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4636" class=
=3D"y_msg_container"><br><div id=3D"yiv8675499643"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym=
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NT-FAMILY:'Arial';COLOR:#141100;">
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4632">A few years ago, several H=
ealey owners here installed PBR VH40 boosters in=20
our BJ8=E2=80=99s.&nbsp; We sourced them at:</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4637">&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4638"><a title-off=3D"" rel=3D"n=
ofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"http://www.hydroboost.com.au/prices.htm"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.hydroboost.com.au/prices.htm";>http://ww=
w.hydroboost.com.au/prices.htm</a></div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4639">&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4640">in Australia.&nbsp; I lear=
ned some interesting things in the process =E2=80=93 the=20
important one is that the VH40 booster is made in several different version=
s=20
with different boost ratios.&nbsp; It means that you have to be sure that t=
he=20
one you buy has a matching boost ratio as the original Girling for it to wo=
rk=20
properly in your BJ8.&nbsp; (the earlier Healeys that had optional boosters=
=20
installed would use a VH44 that would match the earlier smaller Girling).</=
div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4641">&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4642">These boosters are diaphra=
gm units, which means that a vacuum loss will=20
lock the brakes on =E2=80=93 sometimes not the best scenario! =E2=80=93 ask=
 me how I know about=20
this.&nbsp; Turns out that there were some defective small rubber elbow hos=
es =E2=80=93=20
the one that connects the two sections of the unit.&nbsp; They were split o=
n=20
installation at the factory.&nbsp; The fix was easy =E2=80=93 shorten the s=
teel pipe=20
leading up to the valve body and use a length of quality vacuum hose and a=
=20
couple of hose clamps.</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4643">&nbsp;</div>
<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470180970450_4644">We have found the PBR VH40=
 to be an excellent replacement for the original=20
Girling =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m told that it=E2=80=99s getting increasingly d=
ifficult to find quality=20
rebuild kits for the Girling.&nbsp; So in the interests of safety, a replac=
ement=20
booster is preferable in most respects.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The above web-site will answer quite a few questions for you.&nbsp; We=
 had=20
mounting bracket kits and pre-bent brake pipes sent with the boosters =E2=
=80=93 the=20
brackets were Kilmartin pieces at the time.&nbsp; So basically the whole th=
ing=20
was a bolt in proposition.&nbsp; A slightly longer (about 4 inches) vacuum =
hose=20
is required to connect the booster to the manifold.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Incidentally, the PBR booster has a bleed screw right on it, which mak=
es=20
things a bit easier when bleeding the system.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I am happy with the braking feel of my BJ8 with the PBR booster=20
installed.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m pretty sure that they can be sourced in North=
=20
America.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial';COLOR:#141100;">Earl=20
Kagna<br clear=3D"none">Victoria, B.C.<br clear=3D"none">BJ8, BT7 tri-carb<=
/div>
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" title=3D"healey100m@me.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:healey100m@me.com"; target=
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:24 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title-off=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"=
healeys@autox.team.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
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<div><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] BJ8 Brake Servo</div></div></div></div><div =
class=3D"yiv8675499643yqt3543032065" id=3D"yiv8675499643yqtfd43216">
<div>&nbsp;</div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv8675499643yqt3543032065" id=
=3D"yiv8675499643yqtfd10092">
</div><div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;"><div class=3D"yi=
v8675499643yqt3543032065" id=3D"yiv8675499643yqtfd49953"><span style=3D"FON=
T-SIZE:14px;">Hi, have a friend needing to replace a BJ8 brake servo=20
(booster).</span>=20
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;">Suggestions and sources needed. </span=
></div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14px;">I have PBR (VH40, I believe) on my BJ8=
 and=20
happy with that for 7-8 years. Are these still available? Where?</span></di=
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